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    100 Years of ANTIFA

    Since they have been on the radar a lot lately. I figured I'd lay out the history and put some myths to rest. I realize I'm coming at this from a "Leftist" perspective but I believe that the right wing leanings of American education have let us believe that ANTIFA is a new thing as the movement was and is non partisan (there is no unified political belief system involved, if you talk to anti-fascists you will find communists, anarchists, socialists, Democrats, and Republicans at this juncture the rallying cry is "My grandfathers generation didn't fight WWII so that people could march through American streets waving Nazi flags).

    Let's start with where it comes from:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ism-180975152/

    To quote the article:

    The Arditi del Popolo brought together unionists, anarchists, socialists, communists, republicans and former army officers. From the outset, anti-fascists began to build bridges where traditional political groups saw walls.

    This exists within ANTIFA even today I know Anarchists and card carrying Republicans who have never voted Democrat a day in their lives fighting on the same side.

    Now here's where it gets interesting:

    Once in government, Mussolini began a policy of "Italianization" that amounted to cultural genocide for the Slovenes and Croats who lived in the northeastern part of the country. Mussolini banned their languages, closed their schools and even made them change their names to sound more Italian. As a result, the Slovenes and Croats were forced to organize outside of the state to protect themselves from Italianization, and allied with anti-fascist forces in 1927. The state responded by forming a secret police, the Organizzazione per la Vigilanza e la Repressione dell'Antifascismo, the Organization for vigilance and repression of anti-fascism (OVRA), which surveilled Italian citizens, raided opposition organizations, murdered suspected anti-fascists, and even spied on and blackmailed the Catholic Church. Anti-fascists would face off against the OVRA for 18 years, until an anti-fascist partisan who used the alias Colonnello Valerio shot Mussolini and his mistress with a submachine gun in 1945.

    "Americanization" has always been a part of our culture right from Ellis Isle "Your name is Schmitt now it's Smith", "Antonio, now it's Anthony". It was even worse for slaves and Native Americans. "Indian Schools" "Cultural Adoption" etc. Right up through the House Un American Activities Committee, FBI infiltration of Left Wing groups, COINTELPRO, the USA PATRIOT ACT (pretty much making the 4th amendment null and void) straight through to corporate surveillance (if you make a call on any Google service you have to give them permission to record your calls). I got a little sidetracked, back to the article at hand.

    To be continued....

    C/S,
    Rev J
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    #2
    Originally posted by Rev J View Post
    Since they have been on the radar a lot lately. I figured I'd lay out the history and put some myths to rest. I realize I'm coming at this from a "Leftist" perspective but I believe that the right wing leanings of American education have let us believe that ANTIFA is a new thing as the movement was and is non partisan (there is no unified political belief system involved, if you talk to anti-fascists you will find communists, anarchists, socialists, Democrats, and Republicans at this juncture the rallying cry is "My grandfathers generation didn't fight WWII so that people could march through American streets waving Nazi flags).

    Let's start with where it comes from:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ism-180975152/

    To quote the article:

    The Arditi del Popolo brought together unionists, anarchists, socialists, communists, republicans and former army officers. From the outset, anti-fascists began to build bridges where traditional political groups saw walls.

    This exists within ANTIFA even today I know Anarchists and card carrying Republicans who have never voted Democrat a day in their lives fighting on the same side.

    Now here's where it gets interesting:

    Once in government, Mussolini began a policy of "Italianization" that amounted to cultural genocide for the Slovenes and Croats who lived in the northeastern part of the country. Mussolini banned their languages, closed their schools and even made them change their names to sound more Italian. As a result, the Slovenes and Croats were forced to organize outside of the state to protect themselves from Italianization, and allied with anti-fascist forces in 1927. The state responded by forming a secret police, the Organizzazione per la Vigilanza e la Repressione dell'Antifascismo, the Organization for vigilance and repression of anti-fascism (OVRA), which surveilled Italian citizens, raided opposition organizations, murdered suspected anti-fascists, and even spied on and blackmailed the Catholic Church. Anti-fascists would face off against the OVRA for 18 years, until an anti-fascist partisan who used the alias Colonnello Valerio shot Mussolini and his mistress with a submachine gun in 1945.

    "Americanization" has always been a part of our culture right from Ellis Isle "Your name is Schmitt now it's Smith", "Antonio, now it's Anthony". It was even worse for slaves and Native Americans. "Indian Schools" "Cultural Adoption" etc. Right up through the House Un American Activities Committee, FBI infiltration of Left Wing groups, COINTELPRO, the USA PATRIOT ACT (pretty much making the 4th amendment null and void) straight through to corporate surveillance (if you make a call on any Google service you have to give them permission to record your calls). I got a little sidetracked, back to the article at hand.

    To be continued....

    C/S,
    Rev J
    Mussolini was a slave abolitionist like Abraham Lincoln. He freed thousands of slaves.

    He made illegal barbaric practices (like amputating hands and feet of POWs after battle, like the battle of Adwa).

    Mussolini only believed it was okay to inflict pain on people if it is in the end leads to less suffering

    I don't trust your post or links.
    Last edited by ill Duce; 09-26-2020, 07:30 AM.

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      #3
      I believe that it's a shit organisation.
      I reckon it's made up of many butthurt people who think it's ok to do what's wrong.

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      • the Riddler
        the Riddler commented
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        Why are they so butthurt? It's only fascism.

      #4
      While you are entitled to your opinion. I'm trying to give a historical perspective. If you read the Smithsonian article I'm siting you will see where it is coming from.

      The thing is that it isn't one solidified organization. Step back and look at why it came to be. It has been my experience that the people dropping windows have nothing to do with ANTIFA. They are assholes looking for a reason to fuck shit up.

      One of the arguments made by ANTIFA historians is if the "Street Thugs" got to Hitler before he took power then the allies wouldn't have had to bomb the shit out of Europe. You can't reason with a thug who wants you dead. I have much more to say in regards to this.

      C/S,
      Rev J

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        #5
        All i'm saying is pal, is that you have a weird taste in groups.
        There is no need to lose your shit champ.
        It's your interest.

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        • Din Djarin
          Din Djarin commented
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          Who are you talking to here exactly?

        #6
        The left has always been good at naming their organizations and movements for a bait-and-switch. Any reasonable person would be anti-fascist. The only problem is that what it means truly means to be an anti-fascist, doesn’t match the organization’s beliefs or traits. Believing that Antifa in the modern era is “anti-fascist” because their name says so, is as dumb as those who believe Donald Trump is making America great again only because his brand says so.

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          #7
          You probably won't see how wrong you are by the time I get to third wave ANTIFA. Especially how it relates to Portland, and Tom Metzgers 10% plan.

          C/S,
          Rev J

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            #8
            Originally posted by Loverofcatsandfooty View Post
            I believe that it's a shit organisation.
            I reckon it's made up of many butthurt people who think it's ok to do what's wrong.
            Let me set up a situation based on recent (ish) history:

            A group of individuals decides that the town where you live is the perfect place to set up and recruit for an "All White Ethnostate"so they come in to do just that.

            Another group decides that they don't want that in their community and tries to force them out.

            Which one do you support?

            C/S,
            Rev J

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              #9
              Originally posted by 6-eyed View Post
              The left has always been good at naming their organizations and movements for a bait-and-switch. Any reasonable person would be anti-fascist. The only problem is that what it means truly means to be an anti-fascist, doesn’t match the organization’s beliefs or traits. Believing that Antifa in the modern era is “anti-fascist” because their name says so, is as dumb as those who believe Donald Trump is making America great again only because his brand says so.
              Okay, is Fascism any more flawed than Democracy though?

              In the most powerful Democracy it used to be that there were hotels and restaurants that only served white people, Japanese citizens of America were brought to concentration camps because they were Japanese, and that same Democracy blew two countries to smithereens in my lifetime, dropping bombs on women and children in a "war on terror" when that Democracy committed the biggest act of terror ever seen by dropping an atomic bomb on a bunch of women and children at Hiroshima, never really getting a slap on the wrist.

              A few days later the same thing was done to the most Christian city in Japan, Nagasaki.

              But that has nothing to do with Democracy. Fine, neither does mistakes Fascists made have much to do with Fascism.

              I have shared the definition of Fascism and wait for someone to actually find fault with it.
              Last edited by ill Duce; 09-27-2020, 09:01 PM.

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                #10
                I want to eat sugary Rice Krispies.

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                  #11
                  Originally posted by neonspectraltoast View Post
                  I want to eat sugary Rice Krispies.
                  Diabetes

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                    #12
                    Antifa is a godsend.

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                      #13
                      Originally posted by neonspectraltoast View Post
                      Antifa is a godsend.
                      Antifa are idiots rioting and looting. Don’t even know why.

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                        #14
                        Antifa are freedom fighters.

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                          #15
                          Originally posted by neonspectraltoast View Post
                          Antifa are freedom fighters.
                          Freedom wimps

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