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    Treatise on Benito Mussolini and Sigmund Freud exoneration

    Originally posted by Audiogen View Post

    We have a tendency to oversimplify a lot of people's ideas with infamous reputations. For instance, many today often criticize Freud's work as being unscientific but his work, formative work in particular, was being done at a time before we had physical understanding of aspects of the brain like neurotransmitters and structural methodology for psychology. Also, there are some critics who utilize cultural talking points, like people paint some of his ideas as sexist from our modern day viewpoint.

    However, if you read some of Freud's work, the guy was clearly an extremely intelligent individual and I'm not sure how anyone could doubt his dedication to the craft. While there are some aspects of his psychoanalysis which may seem dated, I think there are other aspects where he has been vindicated and culturally we're just not willing to admit it, from the way "sex sells" in advertising, to the prevalence of porn, to kinks and fetishes and maybe even sexual identities.

    So I can understand what you're saying about Mussolini in that respect, on top of that history is written by the victors as you alluded to.


    I never thought about the fact that mankind's sex crazed behavior, the sexual revolution, the fact that most men who try not to view porn still do at least once a month on average, with all the kinks and fetishes , the spread of STD's like an epidemic, the obsession the media has with sex, jokes involving sex, the concern men have about the size of their penis, and how much sex sells and holds people's attention, all makes Freud's seemingly bizzare sexual remarks and hypotheses (like men smoking big cigars to compensate for a small penis) seem quite credible and believable despite sounding perverse or ridiculous.

    Cool. And I wasn't saying it was literally the people that spit on, urinated upon, stole Il Duce's brain from his skull, and used him as target practice were the ones that wrote the history books about him, but it was people with that mentality that dominated Italy following his 1945 execution in cold blood without trial, so it was such people who wrote the history about him and the equivalent of whatever the opposite of a eulogy is.

    It was total bullshit because Mussolini created for the Papacy their own country and the Pope Pius XI called Mussolini the "Man of Providence. God has given us Mussolini..." and encouraged Italians to hail him as being even a Spiritual Shepherd of the people, then wouldn't even provide him the dignity of a Christian burial for 12 years despite Allied leaders giving him a posthumous trial with hopes to put him on the list of war criminals, and couldn't find the Duce guilty of ordering anything remotely close.

    So he was kept in a box for twelve years in a Franciscan Friary where even his wife didn't know if his remains would ever be laid to rest!


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    Napoleon Bonaparte was worse and he got exiled, to ride out of exile to gain control of France and fight his bloodiest battle, just to be exiled again at Saint Helena. America was more guilty than Fascist Italy of War Crimes for dropping atomic bombs on civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, non military targets in the worst terrorist attacks in history by far, when Japan didn't even pose the slightest threat to our nations security, no navy, and their airforce consisted of extremely weak outdated Kamikaze planes that were easy to explode in mid air.

    People in those cities were left burned from head to toe, their hair burned off, blood dripping out of their exploded ear drums, eyes melted , burned, blown out (permanently blind and deaf), covered from head to toe with purple sores, dying in agony from radiation, and those who survived the radiation were worse off than Auschwitz victims, dying of cancer, giving birth to children with huge feet, extra limbs and extremities (no eyes or terrible deformities). My point being, I don't see other single war crimes of World War 2 being as hideous despite Nazi War crimes of course having a much higher kill count, I'd prefer a gas chamber any day. At least we could have nuked military targets.

    So, if America gets away with such terrorism and in my book War Crimes, I don't see what's wrong with exoneration of Benito Mussolini and remembering him for his good deeds. Typically an obituary for people who are total assholes point out their redeemable qualities, where Mussolini was actually very altruistic, it's just his hatred for Communism and desire for a United States of Europe, and the Nazi threat of an invasion of Italy for not being faithful to a pact of steel drew him into a war he did more than Chamberlain to try and prevent.

    In fact, Mussolini called upon the United States and Britain to help him stop the Annexation of Austria with Military force when he put troops on the border, stalling Hitler's invasion. If the USA and Britain had responded, Mussolini would have been on the Allies side. It was Mussolini's incessant phone calls that stalled Hitler's invasion of Czechoslovakia. If Britain or France proved themselves on the battlefield , Mussolini was willing to enter on their side.

    With the fall of France and Britain being the only one's left , and all British forces retreating to their island leaving their weapons behind at Dunkirk, Il Duce believed it was in Italy's best interest to enter the war Hitler said they would have to enter one way or the other, and choose the winning side, to not let all the land fall to the Nazis and be a Caesar of greater Roman Empire, anti-communist antibolshivek block.

    He already was technically Caesar of a revived Roman Empire, which included Ethiopia, Albania, Somalia, Libya, (and basically Spain under the control of his Pupil Francisco Franco whom he propped up and spent most of his money, raw materials, weapons, and some volunteers to fight the Soviet backed Communists in the Spanish civil war which was one reason his military was so unprepared for World War 2 (also was one reason he joined Hitler.

    Hitler was placing guilt trips on him for the Luftwaffe assisting him in defeating the communists and flooding Italy with German propoganda glorifying every German blitzkrieg and victory in Poland, Czechoslovakia, and France. America, France, and Britain refused to help fight Communism. He plus the Fuher had the same common enemy, and only Germany could stop the Soviet backed red revolutions from taking over Europe.

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    So, were I in Il Duce's position I would have made the mistake of joining Hitler , were I unaware of the horrors of the holocaust, which Hitler kept secret even from the vast majority of Germans, especially the Duce, who thought the Jews arrested had Bolshivek ties, and going to reeducation camps.

    I mean, I would have thought Hitler was an asshole, but I would be left with the option of being a Caesar of a Roman Empire, Greater prosperous United States of Europe block, anti-communist defense initiative, or watch my beloved country get overrun by a Nazi invasion in two weeks max for being unfaithful to the pact of Steel, and it would be terrible for the Jews that were in Italy as well.

    Which Mussolini even condemned Hitler's antisemitism as well. When Mussolini decided to tickle Nazi ears by instituting antisemetic laws, a Fascist in his party mentioned the laws were wrong because there were Jews in the highest ranks of the Fascist party in Italy. Mussolini responded that he was right, he agreed the laws were very "stupid", and that they were done for political reasons, but that they would be put into writing , but rarely put into action, and repeatedly Nazis harrassed Il Duce and the Italian government for not rounding up Jews.

    Mussolini was actually way ahead of his time when America had "Whites only" schools and all sorts of segregation laws. Fascist Italy originally was less racist than America. Il Duce was far less antisemetic than the vast majority of contemporary Roman Catholic Italians.


    So, in the 1970's Rachel Mussolini got pissed that every single documentary and book about Mussolini was bullshit, so she decided she would write two books about the man she knew since she was 7, better than anyone else on the planet. Sadly, the books are out of print and never got popular even in Italy. I figured it would just be a bunch of bullshit Fascist propaganda, but decided to read them, and was amazed she doesn't show any indication of whitewashing the man.

    In fact, she hated Hitler, condemns Mussolini's wars of aggression, repeatedly argued and fought with him, constantly was nagging him to retire (he served his people night and day for almost 23 years), she turned down his original marriage proposals, and they weren't even engaged till he pulled a gun on her mother and threatened to kill Rachel and himself. If she was trying to whitewash him, those aren't things you mention. Plus, she was a devout Catholic who believed she could suffer in purgatory for lying if not lose salvation for leading people astray or fueling a Fascist revival in Italy.

    She simply wanted one book to tell the truth about the man from someone who knew him better than anyone. Rachel was a lot like me , same birthday, see's eye to eye on everything, just she was more sane, stable, humble , modest, less violent, and a better writer. (I wouldn't defend Mussolini were it not for Rachel. The best of Mussolini's achievements was the amazing woman he married. She wasn't all that attractive but who needs good external looks when you're the most awesome Fascist and writer there is. She's actually a Saint in my books where Il Duce was not).

    In fact, it was her humility and modesty which caused her to turn down his proposals so she tried to get with other men and he wouldn't let her. While she was 17, dancing with another man he snatched her out of his hands, finished the dance waiting for a fight, dragged her to a taxi, brought her home, and her mother said she'd get police involved if he kept doing that and controlling her daughter.

    He responded "right", left the room and returned with a loaded revolver. So, the budding politician, intellectual, contender, street fighter, and sword dueler, wasn't a "nice guy" sometimes
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    especially then when he was an atheist, or when there was something he really was determined to get (like Rachel).

    To be continued......
    Last edited by ill Duce; 03-23-2021, 01:43 PM.

    #2
    But he was deeply altruistic, not ever giving a shit about material possessions to the point that when his house was raided the most valuable possession he had was the knife he purchased in Switzerland and uniforms (property of the state).

    Virtually all of the money he made as Prime minister was given to make Italy great again, increase the people's quality of life, and he survived entirely off the newspaper he had prior to his rise to power. When his house was raided, people thought his wife in apron with eggs was the maid.


    (interesting but irrelevant fact: Il Duce also would qualify as a successor of King Solomon, because he occupied the house of Solomon, which King Solomon set up with one of his wives, the Ethiopian Queen of Sheba.

    He thought it would be cool to also resurrect the Roman Empire in taking the Ark of the old Covenant which Roman Catholics say prefigured the Virgin Mary, whom the Duce prayed to when he got wounded fighting in World War 2, (and had his Spiritual awakening that lead to him abandoning the Socialist party). Following the conquest of Ethiopia, having the throne of an Israelite King (and the Ark captured), he had his heart set on founding Israel in Palestine, but ran into stumbling blocks getting Jews and Italian Catholics to support it.)


    No one wants to talk about the fact that the Ethiopian Empire Mussolini conquered was guilty of some of the most disgusting atrocities, like after the battle of Adwa, cutting off a hand and foot off every Eritrean prisoner without exception. Even the Nazis were nicer to their POW's.

    The Ethiopian Empire also would likely still have slavery had Mussolini not intervened as the greatest slave abolitionist of the 20th Century (Abraham Lincoln of his time, abolishing more barbaric slavery than what was seen in the confederate states. In Ethiopia the slaves were often not provided for, famous for genital mutilation, and amputation of limbs for repeated disobedience or escape).

    Fascists put an end to those practices as well as provided Ethiopians better education and healthcare as an Italian colony and part of a revived Roman Empire. Mussolini even named his Lion Cub after Ethiopian Rastafarian God Emperor Ras Tafari. Emperor Haile Selassie was going to serve and join Mussolini if the Duce won the war, because lots of Ethiopians approved of Fascist statesmanship, that Selassie, when Mussolini lost Ethiopia, adopted some of Il Duce's Fascist policies, and became a fervent anti-communist ruler of a Theocracy that was Fascist in almost every way but name.

    (I'd say Emperor Haile Selassie was the closest thing to Mussolini in the 20th century, even more than the legendary Generalissmo Franco, and better Fascist than Mussolini in many respects, earning him the nickname "The African Mussolini" from me, or "Sambo Caesar". I'm essentially a Rastafarian, and believe Mussolini is too, now. Mussolini's beef with Selassie had mainly to do with what the Emperor before him, Menelik did, which were clear obvious war crimes.) Click image for larger version  Name:	e85fa3875ba9bbce0f677a3fba31ceae.jpg Views:	0 Size:	64.2 KB ID:	114069 Click image for larger version  Name:	GettyImages-566451185-4e0f8e1.jpg Views:	1 Size:	54.5 KB ID:	114072 Click image for larger version  Name:	220px-Ethiopian_imperial_standard_of_Haile_Selassie_I_(obverse).svg.png Views:	1 Size:	19.8 KB ID:	114073
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      #3
      I know about Italian atrocities in Libya, but there is a lot of conflicting reports about what the Duce ever ordered, and placing people in camps is not actually a war crime. In America, Japanese Americans were placed in concentration camps just for being Japanese.

      And there was an entire campaign to uproot anything good connected to Fascism and so the guy who founded Fascism needs to be seen as the worst monster, to stop Fascism from resurrecting. So Il Duce, largely because he was in power for so long and did so much good, had the worst ending, and the most lies uttered about him, of any leader in World War 2.

      Definitely the most misunderstood figure involved in World War 2, if not the most misunderstood leader of a nation in the history of mankind.


      I don't believe a lot of the shit historians say about Il Duce, because almost every quote on google quotes about him makes him look stupid, but when you read the "Doctrine of Fascism" or a book written by him, he is eloquent, rational, and sounds intelligent.

      Plus the Doctrine of Fascism is the essence of , and intrinsic nature of Fascism, and the very definition of Fascism. Yet there isn't a call to violence in it other than to "defend God as Communists seek to efface God from the hearts of man", and there is not anything remotely close to racism or bigotry.

      It barely even qualifies as Nationalistic , with the exception of honoring war dead and heroes who build the nation, and patriotic sentiments.

      I'd argue the closest thing to "Opression" about Fascism in it's essence, is the exaltation of the State as a female entity with a mind, heart, and will of her own, with primacy, who one is to enter into a covenant with like Christ is spouse of his bride the Church.

      Yet even the Dictionary definition of Fascism is off and alludes to Fascism being racist in it's nature.

      Mussolini wasn't even a Dictator. He didn't have the ability to override everyone like the King. A Dictator can override anyone, it's why Mussolini was arrested twice as Duce, and soldiers owed their allegiance to the King above Mussolini.

      Yet every historian, everyone even their grandmother would call Mussolini a Dictator. It's bullshit!
      Last edited by ill Duce; 03-23-2021, 02:26 PM.

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        #4
        When Mussolini's corpse was discovered, after being missing for 12 years in a box at a monastery, a leg was missing that was chopped into pieces and distributed throughout Italy as relics along with his brain.

        Africa's Mussolini, Emperor Haile Selassie, also was given no dignity or burial after Communists executed him, and was missing for 25 years, then found buried underneath a toilet.

        Who went digging beneath the toilet and how they identified it as the Rasta God Emperor beats me!
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        Also, oddly enough, Mussolini's most successful military conquest was Ethiopia, and my last probation officer was Tenbit , from Ramsey county , which is a black-Israelite Ethiopian (Geez) name meaning "Prophecy".

        It seems prophetic that people nicknamed me Matthew Mussolini , so that Mussolini would have an Ethiopian probation officer to reverse the roles.

        Also, Lia was repeatedly rejected and unwanted by Mussolini in the Old Testament book of Genesis , and thought in vain with each child she would be wanted and appreciated. And so, I jumped off a building over Lia rejecting my marriage proposal, as if it was prophetic of roles being reversed in that scenario, the shoe on the opposite person's foot as well.

        Spiritual writers say Lia represents the cross and the moon (the symbols of Christianity and Islam) and she is also symbolic of rejection. So, after I got out of my wheelchair, I went limping back to Lia and tried to get with her for over a year in vain just for it to result in her locking herself in a room, having police visit me, then getting a restraining order.

        It truly does seem like a Prophecy (Tenbit) of sorts, so I'd not be surprised if someday I'm shot like a rabid wolf in the streets and hung upside down like Benito , for Twin Cities is highly liberal and I have a bad reputation if I were to ever start a Fascist party or religious ministry (Church of Mussoliniology).

        It just seems like Mussolini is my destiny as I have his wife's birthday , and she's the reason I even defend him (and my favorite most influential author she is). I'm also , if I ever start a political party, go into politics, or become a religious pastor, going to get my surname legally changed to Mussolini , which will put more of a target on my back, and it will put a "Please hate me" sign written on my forehead.

        But to die for Il Duce is gain. Maybe when people realize I'm a Rasta, it will pacify their politically correct ignorant ass panties getting into a bundle about the F-word (Fascism) being racist.

        But when my Ethiopian probation officer visited my apartment and saw my pictures of Il Duce all over the outside of my door, she looked horrified. It was extremely awkward. Then I let her in my place and the wall had over 20 Il Duce pics. It was some tough shit to explain.
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          #5


          I saw Mussolini as replacing Amun-Ra, the Egyptian Sun God fused with the Egyptian Creator of mankind Amun, where the Egyptians realized the creator and Sun God became one.

          Likewise, Ra-Mussolini is the fusion of Mussolini with creator Yahweh and replacing Egyptian Sun God Ra. The "Eye of Ra" is the Spouse of Ra, an Egyptian Goddess and separate entity who violently defeats Ra's enemies.

          Mussolini's Spouse is Japanese Sun Divinity and highest Kami Amaterasu.

          The Obelisk to Mussolini, which almost miraculously still stands due to efforts to tear down all Fascist monuments, has it's roots in Sun God Ra, and beneath the Obelisk, Il Duce left a message for the distant future after his death, using Biblical language to describe himself as "A New kind of Messianic Roman Emperor, a Savior of Rome".

          In the Old Testament, The Sun represented Mussolini, the Moon represented his wife Lia, and the stars represented their Children, in Joseph's prophetic dream.

          Scripture says, "Blessed are those who bless Mussolini, cursed are those who curse Mussolini. In Mussolini all people and nations shall find their blessing."

          And Mussolini is the only person in Scripture who was able to fight with God and men and win. who also was superstitious like Mussolini, dabbled in the occult, was a thief, and a contender, and both had their second wife named Rachel.

          Mussolini means Jacob (Israel) , to supplant, to remove from power and replace, which Mussolini did with his march on Rome and the Prime minister stepping down (yes , you've heard all this, but maybe a guest has visited this page).

          Mussolini also means seizer (grabber) which sounds like "Caesar", and Mussolini seized his wife Rachel, seized Ethiopia and multiple countries, seized control of Italy. Mussolini also means "heel", and he hung by his heels. Mussolini also means, "contender with God. " And he was a contender with God. So, he lived up to all four definitions of his name.

          That's very prophetic and impressive! It's one thing to live up to one, but all four is amazing.

          Now, I believe that as Amun and Ra were fused together into one God Amun-Ra, I believe Yahweh and Mussolini are fused together so that Yahweh now has the surname "Yahweh Mussolini", due to Mussolini raising up a Fascist party in Heaven and Marching on God's Capitol Zion.

          Rather than God stepping down and being supplanted as King and Prime minister, he absorbed Mussolini into the Trinity (God the Quad).

          So, anyone who prays to or worships Mussolini , prays to and worships the Creator , who is fused together with him, becoming different persons but the same God.

          This is not Idolatry, for Jesus did say certain people could become Gods with the words "Know ye not, that thou art gods?" And If I knew of another modern leader more gifted than Mussolini , I'd be ranting and raving about him/her just as much. So, no doubt he is a God.

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            #6
            Originally posted by ill Duce View Post
            America was more guilty than Fascist Italy of War Crimes for dropping atomic bombs on civilians at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, non military targets in the worst terrorist attacks in history by far, when Japan didn't even pose the slightest threat to our nations security, no navy, and their airforce consisted of extremely weak outdated Kamikaze planes that were easy to explode in mid air.[/B][/COLOR]

            People in those cities were left burned from head to toe, their hair burned off, blood dripping out of their exploded ear drums, eyes melted , burned, blown out (permanently blind and deaf), covered from head to toe with purple sores, dying in agony from radiation, and those who survived the radiation were worse off than Auschwitz victims, dying of cancer, giving birth to children with huge feet, extra limbs and extremities (no eyes or terrible deformities). My point being, I don't see other single war crimes of World War 2 being as hideous despite Nazi War crimes of course having a much higher kill count, I'd prefer a gas chamber any day. At least we could have nuked military targets.

            So, if America gets away with such terrorism and in my book War Crimes, I don't see what's wrong with exoneration of Benito Mussolini and remembering him for his good deeds. Typically an obituary for people who are total assholes point out their redeemable qualities, where Mussolini was actually very altruistic, it's just his hatred for Communism and desire for a United States of Europe, and the Nazi threat of an invasion of Italy for not being faithful to a pact of steel drew him into a war he did more than Chamberlain to try and prevent.
            The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor suggests they were a threat to national security.

            I know the dropping of the atomic bombs is a contentious topic, I don't really know or recall all the historical details of how close the war was to being over or not.

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              #7
              Originally posted by ill Duce View Post


              I never thought about the fact that mankind's sex crazed behavior, the sexual revolution, the fact that most men who try not to view porn still do at least once a month on average, with all the kinks and fetishes , the spread of STD's like an epidemic, the obsession the media has with sex, jokes involving sex, the concern men have about the size of their penis, and how much sex sells and holds people's attention, all makes Freud's seemingly bizzare sexual remarks and hypotheses (like men smoking big cigars to compensate for a small penis) seem quite credible and believable despite sounding perverse or ridiculous.
              I was bringing up Freud merely as a way to relate with what you were saying and how he had ideas of sexuality and how that is so prevalent in today's society but another aspect to his idea of the unconscious was the death instinct, so you know he might say something like throwing yourself off a building could potentially stem from some unconscious early trauma that was unresolved.



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                #8
                Originally posted by Audiogen View Post

                The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor suggests they were a threat to national security.

                I know the dropping of the atomic bombs is a contentious topic, I don't really know or recall all the historical details of how close the war was to being over or not.
                I agree they were before the battle of Midway.. By the time we dropped the bombs we sunk their navy and shot down their airforce with the exception of some outdated kamikaze planes that were easy to shoot down. Not a threat to another attack on American soil, especially with the Soviet Union now at war with Japan on other fronts as well, and the Japanese unable to even feed their troops and countless soldiers dying of malnourishment. But I hear ya.

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