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I hate my favorite parable!

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    I hate my favorite parable!

    This thread is not about Mussolini or Fascism.

    Maybe it isn't my favorite parable, but I can't think of one I like more. But I really hate it more than others as well. It contains some dude suffering in flames and he never dies. That's stupid as hell and cruelty, the epitome of it, and unjust. That rich guy was just probably some selfish child that never grew up and God never gave him the grace to be good anyway, but the punishment should fit the crime.

    Also, in that parable it says that if Moses appeared to his relatives to warn them about this place of torture, they wouldn't listen. That's a Croc! If someone from the dead told me to change something in my life, I would make very strong attempts to bring about the change.

    I'm trying to avoid the seven deadly sins and gave up porn and fornication and am trying to eliminate pride, addictive chemicals, lust, anger, covetousness, envy, laziness, gluttony, and unforgiveness from my life, and no one appeared to me, and I don't even believe in the Bible, just my conscience mainly says that those things are no good and turn me into a pig I don't want to be.

    I have met atheists that I know would give God a hug and try and obey him if he would just give them a sign that he cares about them personally.

    So, I really despise some of the message in this parable.

    But it's gotta it's the best one I can think of. First off, the poor man got lots of comfort as a result of receiving what is evil in this life. (He went to Abraham's bosom but there are nicer bosom's in heaven than Abraham's ).

    I like how Abraham , Lazarus, and the rich man were interacting. It means that these ignorant people that keep telling me that I have to stop enshrining and praying to dead people based on some verse taken out of context, don't know what they are talking about.

    The Bible in Ecclesiastes is a poem that says the dead don't think, but of course they do. Samuel said Saul would join him in the world of the dead. Jesus was interacting with Moses on Mount Tabor.

    Also, the parable implies that the man was praying to Abraham and not God, and Abraham was responding as a person who has authority. Why would Jesus imply that the rich man was asking Abraham to bring people back from the dead to go to his relatives , if Abraham was without any authority to do anything on earth?

    I like how the rich man mentioned his tongue. It means dead people have bodies (including boobs) even though their old one decomposed.

    This verse appeals to me: " in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. "

    The part about the guy being tormented goes against my conscience as God being a douchebag, but the part about rewarding poor people who receive only evil things and affliction in this life really appeals to me because I live in the hell of the ghetto's and slums and always basically have as an adult.

    But that is partially my fault so I'm not asking God to reward me for my misery in this life.

    It's both a good and a disgusting message/parable at the same time.

    This is the parable:

    There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20and there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

    22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23and in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

    26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 28for I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

    29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

    Please debate me on this or let me know your thoughts!
    Yes, overall it's a good parable
    No, overall it sucks