Meta awareness

[Meliai]

The basic premise behind meditation can basically be boiled down to tapping into an awareness of being aware

But what does that mean, aware of being aware?

Do you feel as if you are often aware of your own awareness?

And if so, what is observing the conscious awareness?

If you are not your thoughts, who and/or what are you?

[neonspectraltoast]

I made a whole post about the possibility of us having higher godlike selves once...

Nobody responded, or I may have gotten a response saying it wasn't possible, not sure.

I believe we're all time tentacles on larger octopus like infinity gods.

[Meliai]

I think you're probably right

[Meliai]

I've pinned this so everyone is aware that we are all time tentacles on a larger octopus

[mallyboppa]

[6-eyed]

One of the best methods of meditation can be exercises in mindfullness. Mindfullness is basically taking notice of everything around you. Every sound, every sensation, every bodily function, etc. Being aware of everything going on is how I meditate.

[Jessica]

I just stared at my wall for ten minutes trying to answer who am I, the observer. Excellently thought-provoking thread! I don't know! But I'm going to think about it

[Meliai]

I look forward to your thoughts : )

[neonspectraltoast]

I've never been aware of my awareness to the extent I've been aware my awareness is just a mode of alertness, ala a dream. I've never given meditation much thought, though.

Who am I, I wouldn't know.

[rolling]

no time for this kind of hippy mumbo jumbo......i have to be aware for 2 of us here....i never think about meditating...it just happens.....maybe not like you yogis.....cannabis trance is also meditating

[Audiogen]

The basic premise behind meditation can basically be boiled down to tapping into an awareness of being aware

But what does that mean, aware of being aware?

The meditation I've done involves focusing on breathing. This technique relies on being aware of autonomic functioning over external stimuli to reach a meditative state. I think I've approached states where meta awareness is an apt description but it's not really like a nested awareness, it's like awareness untethered from input.

Some powerful psychedelics have taken my mind to places far beyond meditation alone, granted I'm not that skilled with meditation. There is an amazing synergy between the two but the nature of psychedelic experiences makes it difficult to meditate sometimes.

On DMT, for instance, I had a trip where my awareness felt like it split into several distinct entities in some space that I can best describe as a Realm of Forms.

Do you feel as if you are often aware of your own awareness?

And if so, what is observing the conscious awareness?

If you are not your thoughts, who and/or what are you?

I don't have a base comparison to know if I do it often or if what I do is even as you describe but I detach from my environment sometimes. The type of detachment is not like I'm unresponsive, rather I take on more of an observer perspective. I still consider the observing part awareness. I experienced a more severe sense of depersonalization when I was heavy into Ketamine. The detachment I experience now is more controlled, it's basically observing awareness involved in the immediate surroundings, not unlike focusing on breathing for sensorial effects and for thoughts, I guess it would be something akin to playing Language Games in my mind.

I think that we are effectively defined by our thoughts but in regards to our essence, perhaps the unconscious is more of an active part of our psyche than we realize and/or our senses and mind have more of a gradient quality to them than it seems.

[Tropical Breeze]

The basic premise behind meditation can basically be boiled down to tapping into an awareness of being aware

Is there not any further?

But what does that mean, aware of being aware?

I don't know. Is it suppose to mean anything?

Do you feel as if you are often aware of your own awareness?

No

And if so, what is observing the conscious awareness?

Good question. I don't know. Do you???

If you are not your thoughts, who and/or what are you?

I don't know. Perhaps i'm just a never ending story created by an imaginary author. Or just a bunch of words and images that exist in the minds of others. What am i to you or what are you to you? Is there any real difference between me and you or you and anyone else? Something of truth? What is your prime reason for meditation? Or is there no reason.

[Tropical Breeze]

Maybe there is a part or state that just witnesses. Like maybe awareness implies action, doing, of the mind and there is something in us that's in the background just passively witnessing it all. Hence aware of being aware.

[neonspectraltoast]

Meditation is so you feel joy while doing worthless mundane tasks to appease spoiled brats.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

[Meliai]

Just to clarify, I brought up meditation as the state of mind rather than the technique and practice.

The state of mind basically being..meta awareness

[Meliai]

Haha I was just playing around with the selected answer function, I dunno if anyone got a notification for that

[Meliai]

Good question. I don't know. Do you???

Nah, not for sure

But the only possible conclusion I can draw is we are all our own gods

Edit for clarification because humans have been projecting the frailties of their own egos - vengefulness, wrath, narcissism, jealousy - onto their gods and mythologies for thousands of years and I think the term god sometimes carries a negative connotation because of it

By god I am referring more to the Jesus archetype - loving, non judgmental, kind, healing, benevolent. A powerful force for good

[Jessica]

i've had real difficulty with the G word, because it seems so natural to me to use it, and despite having spent time in a church, it doesn't carry connotations for me. i always feel it's clear what i mean by "God" but then it's obvious other people don't think so. Recently I've switched to "the Divine", which actually I prefer. We are Divinity :-)

[Meliai]

Jessica I like "the Divine" too! It makes me think of a spiritual being that lives inside of us, versus external to us.

[Din Djarin]

Like: the Force in Star wars (inspired by taoism btw )

[Din Djarin]

Nah, not for sure

But the only possible conclusion I can draw is we are all our own gods

Edit for clarification because humans have been projecting the frailties of their own egos - vengefulness, wrath, narcissism, jealousy - onto their gods and mythologies for thousands of years and I think the term god sometimes carries a negative connotation because of it

By god I am referring more to the Jesus archetype - loving, non judgmental, kind, healing, benevolent. A powerful force for good

The only possible conclusion for us being able to being aware of our own awareness is that we are our own gods?

I think we are for a large part our own thoughts. What we are can change significantly if our thinking changes/is affected.
That we can be aware of our own awareness does IMO not translate to the possibility we are something else or something more witnessing ourselves or a particular aspect of it. It's just a strange realisation for us to be aware of our own awareness at times, like through meditation.