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    #1

    I'm Fed Up With Writing For Adults.

    Can't even get an agent to read my novel. I am not prepared to self publish. If I write something thats worth publishing then its gotta be done the usual way.

    So I've decided to write a book for seven to eleven year olds. Max length is about 35 to 40 pages. Piece of piss for a writer of my calibre. Have several ideas but don't know if I have to provide the illustrations if needed. I'm gonna give it a go anyway.
    "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.
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    #2
    Sorry you haven't been able to get the attention of an agent. It's tough for writers.
    "I like big butts and I can not lie"
    - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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    • WritersPanic
      #2.1
      WritersPanic commented
      03-24-2022, 01:35 AM
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      Which is exactly why I write the kinds of corporate shit I get paid to write. Few agents reach out to me after I posted most of a book over on on Hunk'o Feedwagon. I destroyed quite a bit of it before I lost access. Afterward someone over there restored some of it, but I had been slowly purging it for weeks that backups were too recent to see the changes. Still sucks so many chapters are still over there though.
    #3
    Originally posted by OP1 View Post
    Sorry you haven't been able to get the attention of an agent. It's tough for writers.
    It sure is cos you can'r approach a publisher directly. You have to go thru an agent.
    "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.

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      #4
      "Usual" changes.
      I used to have the same scorn of it, and think the traditional route was the only worthwhile way.
      But all I want is for my books to exist.

      What part of self publishing puts you off the most?

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        #5
        Self publishing is probably the easy part. Selling is probably the hardest.
        "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.

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          #6
          Originally posted by Dax View Post
          Self publishing is probably the easy part. Selling is probably the hardest.
          I don't know how all the various different self-publishing companies work, but the one I used sets it up so that the book is available on Amazon, ebay, + all the big book retailers. I have to pay a yearly fee to keep that in place. I can also buy my own books at print cost and sell them wherever, however i like.

          The hardest part is marketing, but you could also pay a marketing company to help with that, too. Doing it alone just means having to put more of your own money into it, up front.

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            #7
            Guess I'm an arrogant guy but I believe that if a novel has merit, it should find a publisher.
            "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.
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            • Irminsul
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              Irminsul commented
              03-23-2022, 09:02 PM
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              I agree.
            #8
            Originally posted by Dax View Post
            Guess I'm an arrogant guy but I believe that if a novel has merit, it should find a publisher.
            What should happen is so often different from what does happen though. Especially in something competitive and inherently risky like this. Publishers are way more likely to go with something that fits a formula that has been profitable in the past as opposed to something that has merit but doesn't fit their template.

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              #9
              I also think it's a bit like any other career/field where unpublished writers don't catch lucky breaks very often, you have to really work to build your resume first. Publish short stories in magazines and literary journals, work your way from small unknown ones to the bigger more well respected ones, then start shopping for an agent once you have a few things on your resume

              That's what makes sense intuitively to me anyways, I have little first hand knowledge of the publishing world
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                #10
                Yeah, being a writer is like dealing cocaine. You give 'em that first hit of writing for free. Then pretty soon you can start charging whatever.

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                  #11
                  Originally posted by Dax View Post
                  Guess I'm an arrogant guy but I believe that if a novel has merit, it should find a publisher.
                  well that's just silly, because of what is most popular in all art forms. books, films, music.. it's all about money now, and they usually don't take risks on anything different. yeah, if you're writing for the masses, you could be right. but there's plenty of books, films and music that have merit and would never be supported by traditional methods because it's not a certain money-maker. i've just noticed this is pretty much what Undies said. he's not wrong.

                  i learned that the average time between contacting an agent and getting published is nine years.

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                    #12

                    "I learned that the average time between contacting an agent and getting published is nine years." by Jessica.

                    Could be very true dear ... however might that time be much shorter if the manuscript had all the aspects of a best seller?


                    "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.

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                      #13
                      Did the book have dinosaurs in it?

                      There's. Your. Answer. 😊

                      But I agree that if a book has merit or is good, I don't see why it can't get published just because you don't have a name for yourself yet.

                      They probably said the same things about Elvis though.

                      So prove them wrong. 😊

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                        #14
                        Originally posted by Dax View Post
                        Self publishing is probably the easy part. Selling is probably the hardest.
                        You are so right. I was at DragonCon some years ago and saw Sherrilyn Kenyon working her own booth in the main hall of the Marriott marquis. Who can help but admire that kind of tenacity.

                        If I ever hope to get anything into the mainstream, I'm probably going to have to self-publish. I met a commercial writer years ago named Peter Bowerman. He published a book called The Well Fed Writer followed by The Well Fed Self-Publisher. I have both and they have saved me from wasting a lot of money.

                        I would like to write something that the coming generations might appreciate, but I realize that's a precarious order. Really, who wants to read the opinions of some old white fucker? Best to stick to fiction or technical writing.

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