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    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. – Anonymous


    There is absolutely no evidence anywhere in support of the existence of a god. The bible is a collection of religious texts that was constructed by a group of men far back in antiquity from writings that were selectively altered to suit the times.


    Neither is there any evidence for the existence of Jesus. Nothing, not a single artifact, manuscript, record, eye witness account exists anywhere that survived from the time in which he supposedly lived. All references to him are from accounts written decades after his supposed death.


    The mere fact that a heretical Jewish preacher named Yeshua lived around 30AD, had a group of followers and was later executed certainly does not mean that the son of god lived at that time.


    If god is the alpha and the omega. The beginning and the end, knows what has passed and what is to come, why do people pray and think it will make any difference?” – Mark Fairclough


    God is silent and inactive. Men and women the world over do far more for mankind then any god has ever done. If a passerby noticed a man carrying an automatic rifle entering a school, hopefully they would immediately take some form of action to stop him. But god does nothing.


    The only evidence ever given for the existence of God has been, “I know he exists therefore he does.” There is otherwise not a single shred of real evidence to prove the existence of god. Nobody has seen him do anything or say anything. Without exception all those people who have claimed to have either seen or spoken with him have been found to be insane or liars.


    Elite athletes make first place, strange shapes appear on toast and some people narrowly escape death, but amputated limbs never regrow, mountains never move and food never spontaneously appears in front of the hundreds of children that starve to death each hour.” – Anonymous


    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” – Epicurus





    Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?” – Sister Miriam Godwinson.
    If god is the alpha and the omega. The beginning and the end, knows what has passed and what is to come, why do people pray and think it will make any difference?” – Mark Fairclough

    Prayer: To ask the laws of the universe to be annulled on behalf of a single petitioner, confessedly unworthy.” – Ambrose Bierce
    Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.” – Unknown

    Being an atheist is like being the only sober person in the car – and no one will let you drive.” – Anonymous

    You do not need the Bible to justify love, but no better tool has been invented to justify hate.” – Richard Weatherwax

    Because if the only way the supreme creator of the entire universe can demonstrate his existence to me is to create images of Mary or Jesus on food items, I’m not impressed.” – Anonymous

    Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” — Anonymous

    We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.” – Gene Roddenberry

    Every atom in your body came from a star that exploded. And, the atoms in your left hand probably came from a different star than your right hand. It really is the most poetic thing I know about physics: You are stardust. You couldn’t be here if stars hadn’t exploded, because the elements – the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, all the things that matter for evolution and for life – weren’t created at the beginning of time. They were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the only way for them to get into your body is if those stars were kind enough to explode. So, forget Jesus. The stars died so that you could be today.” – Lawrence Krauss


    Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions.” – Blaise Pascal

    I’m sorry if my insensitivity towards your beliefs offends you. But guess what – your religious wars, jihads, crusades, inquisitions, censoring of free speech, brainwashing of children, forcing girls into underage marriages, female genital mutilation, stoning, pederasty, homophobia and rejection of science and reason offend me. So I guess we’re even.” – Anonymous

    If God had wanted us to believe in him, he would have existed.” – Linda Smith

    If Jesus is the son of god, but also god himself, then he supposedly sacrificed himself to himself to save what he created from himself. He also, therefore, prayed to himself and begged himself not to require himself be crucified in order to appease himself and save the world from the wrath of himself.” – Anonymous

    There’s no hell mentioned in the Old Testament. The punishment of the dead is not specified there. It’s only with gentle Jesus, meek and mild, that the idea of eternal torture for minor transgressions is introduced.” – Christopher Hitchens

    Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense.” – Chapman Cohen

    Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions.”- Frater Ravus

    There is nothing more telling of a person’s fundamental lack of perspective and humility than an insistence that if they cannot reconcile their beliefs with reality, then reality itself must be wrong.” – Anonymous
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    Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would l go to hell?
    Priest: "No not if you did not know."
    Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
    Annie Dillard: "Pilgrim at Tinkers Creek."

    "On the sixth day God created man. On the seventh day, man returned the favor."

    Unknown.


    "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.

    #2
    Atheists have the sciences figured out regarding the origin of the universe and the evolution of species. But they don't have the socio-political stuff figured out. Without a belief in a higher power, the citizenry worships the government as the great provider. That's why Marx sought to abolish religion, and establish centralized authority. And sadly as a result of this, atheists have an unholy alliance with the commies. At the end of the day, I'd rather be an Athiest in a Christian society, than an Atheist in an Atheist society. Because communism denounces all religion and belief in God, the citizens of communist societies seek meaning elsewhere. For example, North Koreans see the Kim family as their god. Bernie Sanders supporters are religious zealots too, but they'll deny this and call themselves atheists. But with their dogmatic socialism, the state has become their god and their great provider.

    Further I’ve had paranormal, surreal, and possibly spiritual experiences that were more than mere coincidences in my life. Happenings that science couldn’t explain. Therefore I’m an ex-atheist.

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      #3
      The origin of the universe hasn't been figured out, and the Big Bang was first proposed by a theist. Atheists can't win that one. Now they want to say it came from "nothing" which was really something that "quasi" existed forever. But there's no science to back that up, for obvious reasons. And the Theory of Evolution is open-ended and doesn't speak as to whether there's a God, though it may pose a challenge to young Earth creationists.

      Ultimately the people who would know there's a higher intelligence on that scale would be those who sought it out.

      I don't know why anyone would expect an atheist to be an expert.

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        #4
        And there was war in Heaven.. Michael and his Angel's fought against the Dragon, and the Dragon fought, with his Angels.. And prevailed not.. Neither was their place found anymore in Heaven!

        And the great Dragon was cast out.. That ol' serpent called the Devil and Satan, who deceivieth the whole world, he was cast out into the earth.. AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM!!!

        BETTER TO REIGN IN HELL!

        Last edited by Irminsul; 11-29-2021, 10:48 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dax View Post


          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
          Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
          Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
          Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” – Epicurus

          May as well call out another falsely attributed quote... At least I think, I'm not going to bother verifying this one. I doubt Epicurus said this as the Greeks were Polytheistic, although I think they did have the notion of a First Cause being but from my understanding it wasn't involved in human affairs.

          It sounds more like a response to the Early Christian Philosopher/Theologian's depiction of God. Very interesting questions that address the Omnipotence paradox.


          Rephrased as a more agnostic query


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            #6
            Originally posted by 6-eyed View Post
            Atheists have the sciences figured out regarding the origin of the universe and the evolution of species. But they don't have the socio-political stuff figured out. Without a belief in a higher power, the citizenry worships the government as the great provider. That's why Marx sought to abolish religion, and establish centralized authority. And sadly as a result of this, atheists have an unholy alliance with the commies. At the end of the day, I'd rather be an Athiest in a Christian society, than an Atheist in an Atheist society. Because communism denounces all religion and belief in God, the citizens of communist societies seek meaning elsewhere. For example, North Koreans see the Kim family as their god. Bernie Sanders supporters are religious zealots too, but they'll deny this and call themselves atheists. But with their dogmatic socialism, the state has become their god and their great provider.

            Intuitively, it seems like existential atheist thinkers who promote the idea of people finding their own meaning in life might favor an economic system like capitalism, but it doesn't seem like atheism would necessarily favor any economic system in particular without extraneous factors.

            I don't understand the connection you draw between lack of belief in God resulting in government worship. Why, as you assert, does atheism lead to government worship?

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              #7
              ^^^ it doesn't.
              in the case of America, at least, the transference of reliance on religion to government was intended and guided.
              it's definitely not the default.

              American right wing Christians seem to be some of the people most worshipful of their government representatives, actually.

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                #8
                ^yes. Not to bring up a sore topic no one wants to ever discuss again, but I've never seem zealotry for a government official like I did during the Trump years. It was a tad alarming really.

                The most alarming thing, and this happened during the Bush era too, was the blending of religion and politics. Gets a bit murky when one thinks their political beliefs are driven by their God.

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                • Amerijuanican
                  Amerijuanican commented
                  Editing a comment
                  Things got a bit murky when we realized the influence that Obama's pastor of 21 years may well have had on him too. Not "religious right-wing conspiracy theorists", but the leftest of the left...
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3LXvVlsI4

                #9
                so explain that 6-eyed ^^^

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                  #10
                  As is written, "They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me."

                  There really isn't any theism anymore, outside of pantheism. Just religion. Come unto God as a child, no...all come unto God with preconceived notions, biases, and absolute truths rather than blind wonder and curiosity.

                  Politics has nothing to do with it, ego death everything to do with it. But of course men will use religion, even if that religion be atheism, to whatever extent they perceive is to their benefit.

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                    #11
                    Originally posted by Audiogen View Post

                    May as well call out another falsely attributed quote... At least I think, I'm not going to bother verifying this one. I doubt Epicurus said this as the Greeks were Polytheistic, although I think they did have the notion of a First Cause being but from my understanding it wasn't involved in human affairs.

                    It sounds more like a response to the Early Christian Philosopher/Theologian's depiction of God. Very interesting questions that address the Omnipotence paradox.


                    Rephrased as a more agnostic query


                    Audiogen. I am a long-established atheist and and unlikely to change no matter what argument is placed before me. Having said that I would be the first one to grant Christians and other religions the right to believe in whatever floats their boat. From everything I have read, seen and heard ... and I have travelled the world over ... my bet would be on extra-terrestrials having colonised this planet. Just by reading the Bible, which was put together by the Holy Roman See, with a little help from Constantine, this is as plain as the nose on my face.

                    I don't want to go into detail here and now, but why would a spiritual being with the power to create an entire universe and everything on and in it, order some of his creation to build a box of a certain size etc etc so that he could speak to the High Priest? I fear we will never find out.

                    A question for anyone out there ... Why do people believe in the "biblical god?" And please don't mention the word faith.
                    "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.

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                      #12
                      Quite a leap going from the theistic beliefs in the bible not being the absolute truth (very reasonable conviction), to the inevitable conclusion that we can derive from the bible (and other holy and historic texts) that extraterrestrials have colonised this planet (a fair consideration but not certain or even clear AT ALL, except for those who are already inclined to uhm believe in that conclusion). I'm somewhere in between myself.

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                        #13
                        Originally posted by Dax View Post

                        A question for anyone out there ... Why do people believe in the "biblical god?" And please don't mention the word faith.
                        There are different/multiple reasons but one big one seems to be because their parents and ancestors did. So in that instance: out of tradition and due to indoctrination.
                        I think a significant amount of those theists would have a diff religion if they were born and raised in a society where a different religion dominates.

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                          #14
                          Originally posted by Din Djarin View Post

                          There are different/multiple reasons but one big one seems to be because their parents and ancestors did. So in that instance: out of tradition and due to indoctrination.
                          I think a significant amount of those theists would have a diff religion if they were born and raised in a society where a different religion dominates.
                          Exactly precisely what I believe. No child is born Christian, Jewish, Muslim whatever. Children should be defined and a child of Catholic or Jewish or Methodist parents.
                          "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.

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                            #15
                            Originally posted by Jessica View Post
                            ^^^ it doesn't.
                            in the case of America, at least, the transference of reliance on religion to government was intended and guided.
                            it's definitely not the default.

                            American right wing Christians seem to be some of the people most worshipful of their government representatives, actually.
                            political meme

                            Originally posted by Meliai View Post
                            ^yes. Not to bring up a sore topic no one wants to ever discuss again, but I've never seem zealotry for a government official like I did during the Trump years. It was a tad alarming really.

                            The most alarming thing, and this happened during the Bush era too, was the blending of religion and politics. Gets a bit murky when one thinks their political beliefs are driven by their God.
                            yeah at least during bush people thought that bush was a guy pushing god's agenda. with trump they thought that he literally was an angel sent by god. i do remember one of the last times i ever went to church with my mom, we got a sermon about how we would go to hell if we voted for john kerry.

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