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  • Atheism is EXTREMELY dangerous and hazardous for me to embrace!

    So let's say you learned that with certainty you now know that there is no such thing as a God or a spiritual entity, there is no creator, there is no life after death, there are no angels!

    What would you change about your life!?

    I know the first thing that I would do is I would panhandle enough money to buy a pistol, I would purchase a few bullets for the pistol, and I would blow my brains out! The last time I felt with certainty there was no God, and I lost faith that any supernatural beings existed, was 2017, and the first thing I did was find a cliff which led to the top of a building or a parking ramp, three stories high, and jumped onto concrete,
    waking up in the emergency room unable to talk, with tubes coming out of my throat , fed through a tube going into my stomach, unable to move.

    I think the Bible says all kinds of ridiculous garbage, but I think every atheist should be very careful trying to destroy Faith other people have.

    When I didn't have faith that something/someone could see what I do in secret, I did some very bad dishonest things in secret, because a hundred years from now it won't matter to dead old matt, and nobody can see to consequence or reward me for it, and I plotted on doing some very very terrible depraved vicious things to other people, as an atheist!

    As an atheist, I was a violent sociopath, repeatedly incarcerated for serious crimes, and was a major threat to society, and hated religion and religious people!

    I know without a doubt if I go back to being an atheist, I lose motive for sobriety, I lose motive for integrity, I lose motive to be a good person. Because what the world has to offer doesn't make me happy. Give me a degree, a suit and a tie, even a beautiful wife, I don't care. I'm going to get old and ugly. My wife is going to get old and ugly, we're going to fall apart, and I just don't care.

    I might as well just kill myself anyways. Because those things don't make me happy, independent of faith that something Greater is involved!

    Fortunately, as a result of prayer, I went from being a violent sociopath, to being a very charitable, compassionate, kind, and even a somewhat meek and humble person.

    I'm not saying the Bible is true. I think the Babble is ridiculous, and has a whole bunch of garbage, think God is extremely cruel, but I have to have faith in some entities that I'm pleasing by doing good deeds, that I displease when I do bad deeds, who know what I do in secret, who can read my heart!

    It is extremely dangerous for me and for those around me, if I lose faith in those convictions, and I think atheists should keep in mind these things , when they try to destroy the faith of other people!

    On the same token, I think religious people need to be very careful as well. I very much sympathize with atheists, because I grew up a die-hard fanatic atheist, because religious people have done so much damage, and the Bible contains so much harmful , irrational, hilarious, toxic trash!

    So if you are an atheist, I feel you, I'm very sorry if you have to suffer the way things are, and what you hear religious people say, and what you see them doing. (All this judging and condemning people to Hell etc)

    However, for countless people, you do them a huge disservice if they lose faith, where they can hurt themselves or other people. It's best to keep that in mind!
  • Answer selected by Matthew Mussolini at 03-04-2022, 03:07 AM.

    I’m glad you’ve been able to find an element of faith that keeps your conscious moral compass in balance, Matthew.

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    • #2
      I could maybe acquire massive wealth or something, I highly doubt it but maybe.

      And then I could travel the world, but the whole time, what's going through my head, is "100 years from now it's not going to matter to me".

      So, whether I blow my brains out tomorrow, or whether I travel the world, 100 years from now dead Matt isn't going to care one way or the other, so I would still be tempted to blow my brains out, because I just don't like this world!

      Plus, there are a lot of people who are in chronic physical and psychological pain, myself being one of them, and it would just make perfect sense to blow my brains out, if we are not eternal beings, or if there is not some sentient being that is pleased or displeased with my actions, other than the fragile, fleeting, temporary material creatures around me.

      For atheists who have found their happiness as an atheist, well then I am happy for them!

      I'm just saying, there are a lot of people who are better for society, and less of a threat to themselves, if they have certain religious beliefs, so promoting atheism can become a very very toxic dangerous thing for certain psychologies.

      There are a lot of people who are better for society, less of a threat to society, less of a threat to themselves, who are out there doing a lot of deeds of charity, because they believe there are sentient unseen beings who are pleased by what they are doing, who will reward them and bless them, either in this life or the next.

      I think in those circumstances, discouraging those people in their faith, is a great disservice to them, and the people around them, and the society they live in!

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      • #3
        I’m glad you’ve been able to find an element of faith that keeps your conscious moral compass in balance, Matthew.

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        • #4
          Originally posted by 6-eyed
          I’m glad you’ve been able to find an element of faith that keeps your conscious moral compass in balance, Matthew.
          I appreciate the support.

          It has been essential and helpful!

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          • #5
            You did go to jail and habitually smoked Meth while a believer, so belief didn't fully rid all your problems.

            If you weren't railing against the Bible in your op, I would say it sounds like you've been brainwashed by faith, like they've manipulated you to the point where they've convinced you suicide is the best option without them. At the very least, your claim that you need faith as a crutch to act morally suggests you are a moral relativist, that is, principles are contingent and you provide a rather extreme example, where moral can quickly turn to immoral, which highlights why I view that perspective as flawed.

            I've spoke with theists throughout the years, some of which I have no doubt would be able to adjust and draw upon a foundation of morals derived from religion to utilize in a world without God. I think many theists and atheists alike recognize value in the human experience and that is enough to rationally justify morality.

            Regardless, I don't think you have to be worried, It's not possible to prove non-existence of a "spiritual entity"... Or please elaborate on how that might be done.

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            • #6
              Originally posted by Matthew Mussolini
              So let's say you learned that with certainty you now know that there is no such thing as a God or a spiritual entity, there is no creator, there is no life after death, there are no angels! What would you change about your life!?

              I've been an atheist as far back as I can remember. Probably even in my teens. (I'm turning 50 y o this year)

              For me, Atheism has been rewarding beyond belief.
              I don't regret a day for being an atheist either.

              If/When god was/is proven false, my first reaction would be to have a quick laugh/chuckle and then go about my productive day.





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              • #7
                I already live my life like that as well. I don't care if OP embraces atheism but may hope he doesn't sees it as dangerous for other people. Because it is not.

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                • #8
                  Pedophile and sexual abusing religious leaders of a so called god, is something not to be affiliated with.


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                  One summer day, my friend Scott disassociated himself with religion after his pastor asked to see his employer's W2's so they could come together and agree on a modest monthly donation amount to the church.

                  Scott immediately walked out on the meeting cause the pastor drove an expensive late model convertible 2 seater sports car. ​​​​​​​
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                  Scott has never been back to a church since. 10 years ago at least.

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                  • #9
                    I was a Christian the first 19 years of my life, an atheist for the next 17, and now I don't think I'm an atheist anymore.

                    And with all that flip flopping I don't think my moral center has moved an inch lol.

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                      • #11
                        Off topic
                        If embracing is needed, embrace Alpha mentality and be your own god to yourself.


                        Screenshot_20220304-074701_Google.jpg

                        There was a sculptor. He found this stone, a special stone. He dragged it home and he worked on it for months until he finally finished it. When he was ready he showed it to his friends. They said he had created a great masterpiece, but the sculptor said he hadn't created anything. The statue was always there, he just chipped away the rough edges. You're always going to be tearing away at yourself until you come to terms with who you are. Until you come full circle as an Alpha male.



                        With some chiseling in the right direction, you'd make a good Alpha male Matty.




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                        • #12
                          Originally posted by Audiogen
                          You did go to jail and habitually smoked Meth while a believer, so belief didn't fully rid all your problems.

                          If you weren't railing against the Bible in your op, I would say it sounds like you've been brainwashed by faith, like they've manipulated you to the point where they've convinced you suicide is the best option without them. At the very least, your claim that you need faith as a crutch to act morally suggests you are a moral relativist, that is, principles are contingent and you provide a rather extreme example, where moral can quickly turn to immoral, which highlights why I view that perspective as flawed.

                          I've spoke with theists throughout the years, some of which I have no doubt would be able to adjust and draw upon a foundation of morals derived from religion to utilize in a world without God. I think many theists and atheists alike recognize value in the human experience and that is enough to rationally justify morality.

                          Regardless, I don't think you have to be worried, It's not possible to prove non-existence of a "spiritual entity"... Or please elaborate on how that might be done.
                          It is true that I had a weakness of smoking meth, an addiction that I knew was wrong that I was doing anyways, that I know now I'm not supposed to be doing! And I did commit a crime, but I'm aware that that was not the will of the entities that I'm trying to please. I want to change and be a better person. I believe there are entities that can see the shameful deeds I do in secret, so I'm trying to uproot and avoid those devices and deeds.

                          Also, many times I have not used meth, because I don't want to have to be lying to people, and because I believe by staying sober I please the spiritual entities I'm devoted to as well.
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                          If I didn't believe anybody could see what I do in secret, I can do anything I want to in secret, nobody knows but me, no one will reward or consequence me unless police find out, and that is simply a dangerous thing for me to believe. It is also dangerous for me to believe that a hundred years from now I won't care whether I was a serial killer or a saint, and that nothing really matters, I'll just be a skeleton who doesn't care, never held accountable, never rewarded for my good deeds, never really punished for my bad deeds, it affects how I behave tremendously!

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                          • #13
                            Originally posted by Pete's Draggun


                            I've been an atheist as far back as I can remember. Probably even in my teens. (I'm turning 50 y o this year)

                            For me, Atheism has been rewarding beyond belief.
                            I don't regret a day for being an atheist either.

                            If/When god was/is proven false, my first reaction would be to have a quick laugh/chuckle and then go about my productive day.




                            I'm glad it works for you, and I see you as a very good person, a better person than myself, and I'm very happy for you! Keep up the good work!

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                            • #14
                              Originally posted by Pete's Draggun
                              Pedophile and sexual abusing religious leaders of a so called god, is something not to be affiliated with.


                              Screenshot_20220304-071427_Samsung Internet.jpg




                              One summer day, my friend Scott disassociated himself with religion after his pastor asked to see his employer's W2's so they could come together and agree on a modest monthly donation amount to the church.

                              Scott immediately walked out on the meeting cause the pastor drove an expensive late model convertible 2 seater sports car.
                              ​​​​​​​
                              Scott has never been back to a church since. 10 years ago at least.
                              There is an extreme amount of scandal amongst religious people, but nothing in the Catholic Church teaches that it is okay for a priest to do those things or to hurt people, or to molest children.

                              But I do not believe in Catholic dogma, therefore I'm not catholic, so I don't know why I'm defending the church.

                              The Catholic teachings are that charity is most important, and being kind to other people, and following the Golden rule, are what a priest should be doing.


                              A priest also takes a vow of celibacy, which means that the religion is telling him to do the opposite of what he is doing , when he sexually abuses somebody. When he does that, he is doing the opposite of what he took of vow not to do.

                              ​​​​​​So we can't actually blame the religion for it. Also, studies have shown that only roughly 2% of Catholic priests are guilty of pedophilia. That is still far too many, but what I'm saying, is it's much higher amongst School teachers and certain other professions.

                              ​​​​​​​Also, the Soviet Union was a militantly atheist empire, and they carried out the biggest sexual abuse rape epidemic that I know of in the history of the world! Atheism has many scandals as well! Atheist communism killed roughly 100 million people in the 20th century alone.

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                              • #15
                                Originally posted by Pete's Draggun
                                Off topic
                                If embracing is needed, embrace Alpha mentality and be your own god to yourself.


                                Screenshot_20220304-074701_Google.jpg

                                There was a sculptor. He found this stone, a special stone. He dragged it home and he worked on it for months until he finally finished it. When he was ready he showed it to his friends. They said he had created a great masterpiece, but the sculptor said he hadn't created anything. The statue was always there, he just chipped away the rough edges. You're always going to be tearing away at yourself until you come to terms with who you are. Until you come full circle as an Alpha male.



                                With some chiseling in the right direction, you'd make a good Alpha male Matty.



                                Great Post! Do you remember that video, where I charge that black man's vehicle, got on top of it, and he started hitting me, and I started shouting I was the Joker! Is that alpha male behavior!? Sacrifices-Heath-Ledger-Made-To-Become-The-Joker1400_5eaff53aed896.jpg

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