ethics and AI

[Audiogen]

More valley than uncanny? Realistically, you'd never mistake her for a human.

That's what I find unethical, though, it toys with even our perception of ourselves.

I do not think its possible to jive human motor functions with a not self-aware AI, though.

Don't you think that's kind of sick? I do.

If possible, I don't think creating self-awareness is sick in-and-of itself, I think it potentially offers insight into aspects of consciousness that philosophers have been contemplating for centuries, if not millennia, and possibly helps people better understand aspects of cognition and psychology. Of course, there could be unintended consequences.

As far as a human look, that does seem like a weird kind of vanity, placing an aware machine in a human looking body. I can understand making it anthropomorphic to help navigate the environment but I think something like C-3p0 with more human facial features and agile movement would suffice. I don't like the idea of replicating human skin tones and fine details.

Maybe it would decide it wants to inhabit other types of bodies and creates an octopus body for itself that it chooses to inhabit on Thursdays or something.

Consider just the self-awareness part, whether robot or computer or whatever. Say you design a self-aware computer to help understand the laws of physics, but it decides it doesn't care for physics and wants to be a writer or something. Do you try to force it? Threaten to shut it off if it doesn't do want you want? If so then we're acting like God.

Some might liken it more to slavery. It's interesting to ponder if people would value it in the same way as carbon based life or is there something about having a heart and organs where we don't view the mere computational self-awareness in the same way and it results in us not having much empathy towards it. It's a bit wild to think of a scenario where you could fully communicate and interact with a robot but still think more highly of a cat or dog.

[Amerijuanican]

Don't really know much about AI yet, other than how it reacts to posters on fakebook.

People often get banned or punished for something totally obscure.

[Jessica]

I think something like C-3p0 with more human facial features and agile movement would suffice. I don't like the idea of replicating human skin tones and fine details.

agree. it just seems weird and pointless to try to make them indistinguishable from humans.

I think when conscious AI comes about, it will not see the need or desire to be confined to any one kind of body, anyway. It won't have to be.

[Din Djarin]

Some good subject matter for books or movies/tv. Besides I Robot there's also:

Äkta människor (Real Humans)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2180271/

and

Better than us

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8285216/

I found both pretty interesting and entertaining, although the russian one is more a thriller/suspense series. Real Humans is a danish production btw, and definitely more interesting in regards to ethics and AI. Hope you can find and watch it somewhere! Better than us is likely readily available on Netflix or something, as it is in my country

[neonspectraltoast]

Maybe it would decide it wants to inhabit other types of bodies and creates an octopus body for itself that it chooses to inhabit on Thursdays or something.






Some might liken it more to slavery. It's interesting to ponder if people would value it in the same way as carbon based life or is there something about having a heart and organs where we don't view the mere computational self-awareness in the same way and it results in us not having much empathy towards it. It's a bit wild to think of a scenario where you could fully communicate and interact with a robot but still think more highly of a cat or dog.

That's a neat idea, robots changing bodies.

[Din Djarin]

Altered carbon (based on books. Didn't Audiogen read those??) revolves around being able to change bodies (not robots though, 'just' humans :P )

[Audiogen]

Din Djarin I saw the first season on Netflix but did not know that was based on books.

[Jessica]

I like the film 'Her', which was way deeper regarding this subject than the trailer made me think it would be. The guy falling in love with his computer. But the showing of how fast the AI evolves beyond human understanding and compatibility is, I think, going to be accurate.

[Audiogen]

Some good subject matter for books or movies/tv. Besides I Robot there's also:

Äkta människor (Real Humans)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2180271/

and

Better than us

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8285216/

I found both pretty interesting and entertaining, although the russian one is more a thriller/suspense series. Real Humans is a danish production btw, and definitely more interesting in regards to ethics and AI. Hope you can find and watch it somewhere! Better than us is likely readily available on Netflix or something, as it is in my country

I've heard good things about Better than Us. Just for clarification, I do not recommend I Robot the movie. The movie bears little resemblance to the book, although I do think it mentions the Laws of Robotics but yah it's basically just a Will Smith Summer blockbuster. The book is composed of short stories and has different scenarios, even one in space.


On this theme and movies, I do recommed Ex-Machina:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470752/

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Neural nets arent AI

AI hasnt been invented yet

[Amerijuanican]

um, isn't that what silicon valley uses for processing their (our) algorhythms?