Did we really go to the moon in ‘69?

[6-eyed]

A valid question. Considering the richest men on earth spent many years with all the technology of the modern era, and didn’t even escape the stratosphere.

[neonspectraltoast]

We sure haven't advanced if we did. It'd be like sailing to America just to plant a flag, though I guess the moon is a little dry. Probably the military would want it, too. IMO if we can get there, we should have made a practice of going there. Practice makes perfect.

But it is a little unbelievable that with multiple shuttles exploding, back in 69 they landed that rinkadink lunar lander on the moon and then rocketed back home. But I tend to believe it.

[Youfreeme]

Why does

the richest men barely escape the stratosphere = we didn't go to the moon in 1969?

[Amerijuanican]

I remember the first moon landing. I was like 4 or 5... had a reel-to-reel tape recorder and dad was gonna record it for me, he fell asleep waiting on the landing.

Think it happened in the wee hours of the morning, maybe 3am or 4am, not sure. I do believe they did it for real, that stuff would have been hard to fake. Tech wasn't so great back then, the tv coverage and communication between Mission Control and the Crew was much less than flawless by today's standards Lol...

[NubbinsUp]

The time depends on where you were on Earth (adjust one hour for each 15 degrees longitude). It was the wee hours some places, but on US Eastern Time, the lunar module touched down at 4:17 pm, and Neil Armstrong put his boot on the surface at 10:51 pm. Because it was a normal time for US households to be watching television, the viewership was huge. I wasn't on Eastern time, but I remember watching, a bit earlier where I was.

[Amerijuanican]

Interesting, when I looked it up just now it said the landing was close to 1pm.

Did they time-lapse it? Maybe one of the older members here remember it... Strange.

[neonspectraltoast]

Why is NASA even on a budget? In some ways, money makes no sense. They should just have unlimited reign, be trusted to take only what is needed on an agreeable basis, and let society work it out from there.

I bet that's the solution to everything. Unlimited resources = no such thing as money. We simply function and take.

[tumbling.dice]

Here's a view of the Apollo 17 landing site taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.

[neonspectraltoast]

I see a rock reflecting light.

[Jessica]

I believe we did, yes.

Although I'm fond of this conspiracy theory because it was the first one I ever came across on the internet as a young teenager, and I did question whether the whole thing might have been fake. But I have read the explanations for every evidence that it was fake, and I think something that big would have been impossible to keep secret for this long. Unless like, most of the people involved with it were also somehow tricked.

[Audiogen]

I cannot differentiate the moon trips I've seen footage of. I'm sure some of the info I know about the moon landings isn't specific to 69 but from what I gather we've actually retrieved Moon Rocks, and like Jessica I've heard satisfactory explanations to most the conspiracy theorist arguments I've heard, so I think it's likely we have been there. I wouldn't call the video recordings from 69 with the astronauts very convincing but I'm coming from that perspective in an age where my phone is probably more complex than the technology that was aboard their space craft. Some people suggest that's reason to believe it was faked, the technology but they didn't need all these graphics and stuff we have on the internet, it was probably primarily very specific procedural data/code.

Given that it was during the Cold War, I would have thought Russia would've called us out if they suspected it was fake.

[mallyboppa]

Russia didnt have the tech to track a moon landing at that time

[Din Djarin]

Every question asked in order to sincerely inquire or verify something is valid.

Why it is often put differently in regards to these kind of theories is because people often assert it as a certainty, and have trouble acknowledging their conviction is based on beliefs and assumptions rather than facts. Having a conviction that's not based on a fact doesn't have to be problematic either when it is acknowledged what it is based on.

[Amerijuanican]

I realize how easy to believe maybe the Apollo work might have been staged, but then I remember some of the failures we had in getting that far. One in particular was when a crew of our astronauts had a malfunction and basically burned up in their own flight seats cabin before launch due to a malfunction, our own Indiana native Gus Grissom was one. There is a memorial somewhere in southern Indiana to him, that's where he grew up. Went there when I was maybe 9 or 10. That would be a terrible way to go. Godspeed to all who gave their lives for the cause of space travel. You are not forgotten!

[Amerijuanican]

THE TRAGIC DEATH OF ASTRONAUT GUS GRISSOM




We all know of the tragic explosion of the Challenger shuttle that took the lives of seven astronauts in 1986, but in the story of NASA, one of the worst disasters in the department's history happened on solid ground. As NASA reports, on January 27, 1967, a fire during a preflight test for the Apollo 1 mission took the lives of astronauts Gus Grissom, Edward White, and Roger Chaffee.


The crew was having trouble communicating with Mission Control while testing the Command Module on the launch pad at Cape Canaveral. "How are we going to get to the moon if we can't talk between three buildings?" Grissom is recorded saying just before technicians recorded an electrical surge in the circuits and the crew is heard shouting what sounded like the word "Flames!" White is heard saying, "We've got a fire in the cockpit."

Technicians attempted to open the module's hatch and rescue the crew, but the heat and smoke impeded them for around five minutes, by which time it was already too late. Grissom and his crew mates most likely died from smoke inhalation and burns within the first 30 seconds of the fire.

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[Coldwater]

While I admit there is some compelling evidence that part of the Moon Landing presentation was likely staged,
there's no evidence to indicate we didn't actually land on the moon.

For those of you who think differently.......