this is quite exciting possibilities
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If there is life on Venus i hope we never discover the technology to see it personally. We did an excellent job at fucking up our own planet. Driving plants and animals near towards extinction. The least we could do is not fuck up another planet.-
Just because there could be life on Venus doesn't mean we can ever live there
I think it would be great if we could travel to other planets with plants and animals and breathable air but they're not in our solar system. Part of why it would be so great is that it would mean we could travel interstellar :-D -
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Ah you're with me on the nuclear waste storage plan? :-D I was actually for sending it off into the sun but I guess Venus is far away enough (+ also pretty hot)
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Really interesting discovery though.Comment
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I'm not expecting us to live there, Din Djarin.Comment
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Everything is alive. We identify things like us as being alive, but really all we do is absorb and make sense of information. Things like stars do the same thing, in a different way, a sense of themselves as a cohesive whole.
It's an unimaginable sense of self, but it still is one. And everything is just star stuff. We're all just cosmic phenomena. We think we're special because of ignorance.Comment
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Interesting article although it dashed my hopes of penguins on Venus.Comment
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i'm obviously not suggesting we live on Venus
and i very much support not fucking up other planets..
but i find it depressing that people think it's such an inevitability.
i really think kids today are growing up with a sense of how important taking care of the planet is
and by the time we develop technology that can take us further, we may well be a better species than we are now.
we're not this, forever. (unless we do wipe ourselves out)
we're not inherently destructive.
we're capable of being a much more evolved being.
one that could explore the Universe peacefully and ethically.Comment
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Most other planets in our solar system are deader than dead. They're lifeless. There's nothing to fuck up on them. -
Oddly enough, Mars would benefit from our meddling if we could send our airborne pollution there. It would heat the place right up and provide all kinds of complex chemistry. However, I don't know what use it would be in the long run. We cant live there unless we can somehow raise the gravity. And gravity is tied to mass. We don't have planetary expansion technology.
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It would be great if kids grew up learning to take better care of this planet. Our fellow beings and other living things. And most of all ourselves. I guess we won't know until it becomes obvious.
We are definitely capable of being much more evolved beings. Not sure if that ever happened as a whole yet. Maybe we were at one time but then we went backwards.Comment
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I think our current younger generation, but also our own were raised with such a mentality. But if the systems don't change the majority of them will abide the systems in order to make a conventional living. So growing up learning to take care about our environment only gets us so far apparently. I agree though: its a good start -
We were never there as a whole though. The thing is we never could have such a global negative impact before (a combi of our polluting technologies and the sheer amount of people). Otherwise we would have fucked things up some millennia ago already.
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But we did fuck things up millennia ago on a frequent basis and the Lord gave us a don't argue for our troubles.
With all the speculations of the water planets and moons I'm miffed as to why NASA just hasn't taken a sample from these distant worlds and discovered or not discovered life already. They keep talking about the possibilities, meanwhile we send rovers to Mars to look at the sand for signs of life which to me is kind of stupid, kind of like how you don't see bees hovering around plants they've already harvested lol nooo they go to fresh plants and flowers, we go to the one planet we already guaranteed ourselves has no life lol and even more peculiar is that they won't send the Rovers to the ice caps on Mars where they have the best chance of actually finding life.Last edited by Irminsul; 09-24-2020, 05:41 AM.Comment
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Phosphine gas (PH3) was recently discovered in the clouds of Venus. The reason this may be a big deal is because the gas is produced by microbial life here on Earth but is otherwise difficult to produce on rocky worlds in the quantities detected on Venus. In the mid-layers of Venus' atmosphere the temperatures are low enough for liquid water droplets to exist, so this would be the area to explore. A balloon could carry instruments to carry out this mission.
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Meanwhile, to the other direction in our solar systeM:
Hubble Captures Crisp New Portrait of Jupiter's Storms
This latest image of Jupiter, taken by NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope on Aug. 25, 2020, was captured when the planet was 406 million miles from Earth. Hubble’s sharp view is giving researchers an updated weather report on the monster planet’s turbulent atmosphere, including a remarkable new storm brewing, and a cousin of the famous Great Red Spot region gearing up to change color – again.
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I heard speculation that what they are detecting came from earth. Many near earth asteroids have gone on to collide with Venus. The ones that passed within the reach of earth's atmosphere, or passed through the orbital wake could have picked up all kinds of earthly molecules and carried them toward the inner planets.
Who knows how long this could have been happening?Comment
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Are you still going on about that? The EHT has already run into trouble with the results from 3C 279
Now, either jets emminating from a Black hole run perpendicular to each other and they have to completely re-do a bunch of theories, or the more simpler answer that the Chirp algorithm to render images from the EHT was bullshit the whole time
Not that you'll hear about it, but you haven't wondered why no other images have been released?
20,30 years from now from another project you'll just get a revamped image of a black hole, and in 2050 the scientists will just say in 2019 we didn't quite have the technology or facts to get it rightComment
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