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    Attachment Theory

    At the request of Meliai and Jessica

    I'm interested in this topic and could write a lot, but I'll try and keep it short-ish and just introduce the topic and give people an idea of what the different styles look like. Mel and Jessica, feel free to add whatever I've left out. This information can be used to view your relationship patterns through a different lens, which may help alleviate them. I think most people lean anxious or avoidant, even if they are fundamentally secure.


    The short definition of Attachment Theory:

    "Attachment theory is a psychological, evolutionary and ethological theory concerning relationships between humans."

    Attachment theory was initially developed in response to an observation about how infants reacted to being separated from their primary caregivers (mother or father). The pattern of care provided by your caregivers, coupled with adult experiences, and genetics, form your attachment style in adulthood. There are 2 types of attachment: Secure, and Insecure. Insecure people can be divided into 2-3 subgroups: Anxious and avoidant. Some people have a mixed style, I'll call it mixed. This is the least common. About 50% of people are securely attached.

    Anxious: Anxiously attached adults had caregivers who were unreliable in childhood. Sometimes, they would cry out for help and receive help, other times their caregivers would punish them, ignore them, etc. The main thing is that they weren't able to predict how their behaviors would be taken and therefore were not able to learn a healthy dependence on others. They did not learn that their feelings were valid or would be responded to. In adult relationships, this tends to manifest in "neediness"-these people are always filtering for negative signs. "My partner didn't text me back, they are going to leave me." "They came home an hour late from work, they must be cheating on me." They might seek constant reassurance from partners, because they lack the ability to read people's signs and signals in a way that is healthy and normal. During conflict, anxious people want to solve a problem immediately. They are at risk of entering and staying in bad relationships because they always blame themselves for problems and require a relationship to feel whole. This style is also called "preoccupied" because they are constantly thinking about their partner and the status of their relationship.

    Avoidant: Avoidant people had caregivers who never met emotional needs in childhood. These people learned that showing emotion and being vulnerable is a bad thing. They put on an air that they don't need other people, and they deactivate and push others away when they try and get close. Deactivating behaviors might look like telling a partner "I need space" and not contacting them for a few days after an intimate conversation, or constantly finding flaws in a partner in order to keep them at a distance. Avoidant shut down during conflict and want to be alone. They are concerned with seeming perfect and in control of themselves at all times. Avoidant are at risk of dating a lot of people and never finding love because they think something better is always around the corner.

    Mixed: Vacillate between both.

    Secure: Securely attached people had parents who responded consistently to their emotional and physical needs. They are Comfortable with intimacy. Not prone to jealously. Trust people and recognize their need to depend on others and have others depend on them. Solve conflicts in an emotionally attuned way. Recognizes others needs and can respond appropriately. These people do not find relationships stressful.

    Here is an info-graphic that might be helpful:

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    Last edited by Youfreeme; 05-01-2022, 06:37 PM.

    #2
    Which do you identify most with, YFM?

    If you want to say, I know this can be quite personal

    Same question to anyone else who wants to say

    I'll post more on this later. Such an interesting topic!

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      #3
      i wanted to say, but none of them really seemed right for me. all of them have some characteristics that i can see in myself sometimes, and they all have characteristics that i don't think i have at all.

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        #4
        Ah shit, I thought this was going to be a sex story.

        Anyway, I match the dismissive/avoidant type more than the others. But I don't really think I'm afraid of intimacy, it's more like it is too much trouble. I've never had a bad breakup, by which I mean I experience a sense of extreme relief when a relationship is over, exhilaration almost. I won't bother with the details, but a fair example of what I mean happened years ago when I broke up with a girl in the middle of a date. I just decided that I wasn't happy with her. Afterwards I stopped of at the liquor store for a 12 pack, went home and watched a Three Stooges marathon until early in the morning. I was just too damn excited to sleep. No regrets afterwards either.

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          #5
          Originally posted by tumbling.dice View Post
          Ah shit, I thought this was going to be a sex story.
          what, like an "our parts got stuck together" sort of story?

          i had the wrong thing too. for some reason, i was thinking attachment theory was that thing where you think good things and that somehow causes good things to happen. then once i read it, i kind of remembered what it actually was from old psychology classes.

          i do identify with what you said about breakups being kind of a relief. but i think that's more because most of the people i've dated kind of sucked; on the rare occasions i actually really like someone, breakups are still awful. there's just generally a disconnect between the kind of people i feel a connection with, and the kind of people who are willing to date me.

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            #6
            I'd date you.

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              #7
              i wouldn't feel relieved after the breakup.

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                #8
                I'll go with Fearful Avoidant/Disorganized. The Confused About Love point alone pushes it over the top. Other parts of it I don't relate to, like the sometimes not wanting intimacy point or trouble feeling emotions. Perhaps if it was trouble expressing emotions, that would be more accurate, at least based on past feedback I've gotten.

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                • Youfreeme
                  Youfreeme commented
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                  Ok, I'm going to ask you a very personal question which you under no circumstances need to answer: did you have an extremely shitty childhood? Most people with this attachment style were severely abused.

                #9
                Fearful avoidant/disorganized can be quite extreme from what i've read, veering into personality disorders like BPD. But I think i'm on the less extreme end of fearful avoidant.

                This is all old me lol, I haven't dated in 10 years and now that I'm single again I'm trying to work my way to secure attachment before dating again (which honestly seems fucking daunting). But when I was dating...I would tend to get very anxious when I really liked someone and so I would find myself gravitating towards guys who liked me more than I liked them, simply because it was easier and I didn't get so in my head about it. Textbook fear of intimacy lol

                I started looking into this early this year and it makes me super uncomfortable how much I relate to it, both the deep rooted childhood thing that influences it and how it manifests in adulthood relationships. It's an uncomfortable truth...but good to realize about oneself.

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                  #10
                  My parents raised me well. But i find this to be for a more conventional audience.

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                  • Youfreeme
                    Youfreeme commented
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                    Even if your parents raised you well, it doesn't mean that you find relationships easy and stress free. This isn't entirely learned behavior, some of it can be genetic. Not saying you aren't well adjusted, because most people are, but just pointing it out

                  • Tropical Breeze
                    Tropical Breeze commented
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                    Correct. I agree.

                  #11
                  Originally posted by tumbling.dice View Post
                  Ah shit, I thought this was going to be a sex story.

                  Anyway, I match the dismissive/avoidant type more than the others. But I don't really think I'm afraid of intimacy, it's more like it is too much trouble.
                  Based on the rest of your story, I'm not saying this is true for you, but one thing I wanted to point out is that a lot of avoidants won't consciously feel that they're afraid of intimacy, they will feel exactly what you say here, "it's just that it's too much trouble", or other similar reasons.

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                    #12
                    I tend towards anxious attachments, but I have also been avoidant (anxious-avoidant is a thing, not specifically listed in yfm's post)

                    The thing I've been most concentrated on lately is the fact that anxious attachments will often go for avoidant partners, which is a terrible match. And that's definitely true for me. And if they AREN'T avoidant, they're the ones I have become avoidant towards.

                    The thing I am pleased about is that as a single person, I feel secure, now. I feel like if I never form my ideal relationship, I won't be really lacking in life. Like, it would be nice. But I know it's not essential to the rest of my life being happy, and that isn't something I used to feel. The trouble is that if I fall for someone, the anxiousness is likely to still be there :-)
                    But I'm pretty certain I can get past that with someone willing to reassure and understand, since I've had a great deal of practise getting past it even with an avoidant partner who refuses to reassure or understand, haha.

                    I would suggest anyone who finds it even a little interesting read the main Wikipedia article for attachment theory and also "attachment in adults", the separate article not the sub section. The graphics I've seen summing up the idea vary slightly, and I think the feeling that "some of it fits me, some doesn't" is likely how everyone will feel to a simplified summary.

                    Another thing is that the theory applies outside of romantic attachments, too, and people can have a different attachment to friends than lovers.

                    When it comes to platonic friendship I think I fit more the avoidant-disorganized, or have done in the past. But now tend to be more secure.
                    As well as the initial way caregivers treated you as a young child, subsequent relationships of all kinds will emphasize or shift your responses and style.

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                    • Jessica
                      Jessica commented
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                      Correction: mixed is mentioned in the post, but not the graphic.

                    #13
                    Is there a detachment theory version to this? Tried looking that up but didn't find anything good. That would be an interesting read.

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                      #14
                      Originally posted by Tropical Breeze View Post
                      Is there a detachment theory version to this? Tried looking that up but didn't find anything good. That would be an interesting read.
                      How do you mean?

                      I think it could be just covered by having a secure attachment style, and so not needing to attach in an unhealthy way, or remain unattached in an unhealthy way (for example, self-sabotaging).

                      I'd guess you as secure, btw.

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                        #15
                        i am secure and trust others...however....junior is not....falls under needy......i take some responsibility...no clue how much though

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