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    #2
    people sometimes talk about the idea of a "male pill" but i think it's a silly idea.
    men who are assholes could lie and say they've taken it, and it's pretty bad if either party lies but in this case instead of being tricked into fathering a child you don't have to carry and technically can run away from, you're being tricked into getting pregnant and left with a baby or an abortion.
    also there's less to no reason that a woman would lie about it for a one-night-stand where as there is reason for a man to.

    it's sometimes worded like it's unfair that the responsibility to not get pregnant is belongs to the woman... but like... i don't care if there was a male pill. i am MAKING not getting pregnant my responsibility because it's safer.

    permanent solutions... they're just lucky it's so easy for them.
    Last edited by Jessica; 06-23-2020, 06:18 PM.

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      #3
      i'm not sure why the "male pill" is in inverted commas. the principle is the same no? it's a pill, there's no babies - tah dah. problem solved. but the consequences of conception impact disproportionately on women, sure, therefore it's primarily their responsibility. now if only all those black people would sort out racism. etcetera

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        #4
        As an awkward male, I'm already on the most effective form of birth control.

        But as a general rule, I figure why not? If the woman doesn't trust the guy she is perfectly capable of being on the female pill too, but it doesn't hurt anything to have the additional option.

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        • Undies
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          I just said that the woman can still take the pill because J Ruth said that she doesn't feel comfortable trusting the guy to do it. So, in that case the existence of a male pill doesn't prevent her from having her own insurance policy too. I'm not saying "Bitches can take their own damn pill so I don't have to" or anything like that.

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          Lol sorry Undies I think I just got triggered for no reason..

        • Undies
          Undies commented
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          haha no problem, sorry to have been a part of your trigger.

        #5
        I just personally have been on every form of female bc, except for the injection and the implant, and it all fucked with me. Just wondering why there are so many options for women and not men when all the forms of bc made me either suicidal or violent

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        • Jessica
          Jessica commented
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          copper coil? just because non-hormonal. can make periods heavier though.

        #6
        The pill should really only be used as a primary method of birth control in a committed relationship anyways, like if you're on the pill and having casual sex you should still be using condoms.

        So with that said, I see no reason why male birth control shouldn't be a viable option as birth control for two people in a relationship. Particuarly since so many women don't react well to birth control. If it fucks with the woman's hormones, or kills her sex drive which was always my issue with the pill (so whats the fucking point amiright) and the guy can be responsible for it instead with no side effects, then why not?

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        • Jessica
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          i find it hard to believe there would be no side effects
          the copper coil is a non-hormonal method for women

        • Youfreeme
          Youfreeme commented
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          the issue with the copper coil is that it intensifies periods and cramps. it's frustrating to think that there is really no symptom free BC for women

        #7
        Still a virgin.

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        • tumbling.dice
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          That's 100% effective.

        #8
        If I were in a committed relationship with woman I'd take a male bc pill even if she was on the pill herself. How can I be sure she's taking hers or that she won't stop taking it for some nefarious reason? I don't understand the female mind, they do some strange things.

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          #9
          Originally posted by tumbling.dice View Post
          If I were in a committed relationship with woman I'd take a male bc pill even if she was on the pill herself. How can I be sure she's taking hers or that she won't stop taking it for some nefarious reason? I don't understand the female mind, they do some strange things.
          even the most well intentioned woman could make a mistake too. if you're both on the pill that's an added layer of protection from any unfortunate accidents.

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            #10
            Originally posted by Thomas View Post
            i'm not sure why the "male pill" is in inverted commas. the principle is the same no? it's a pill, there's no babies - tah dah. problem solved. but the consequences of conception impact disproportionately on women, sure, therefore it's primarily their responsibility. now if only all those black people would sort out racism. etcetera
            it was in commas because it might not be a pill and i just meant it to stand for any form it might take.

            i think you're making your point with sarcasm, okay. but i don't think they're the same. black people can't "sort out racism" on their own.
            Last edited by Jessica; 06-24-2020, 06:51 AM.

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              presumably women can't "sort out pregnancy" on their own? if i have a point, and i'm not sure i do, it's that it'd like to live in a world where our decisions/responsibilities aren't guided/defined by the likely consequences for us, personally (or at least not exclusively)

            • Jessica
              Jessica commented
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              Guest yes, i see what you're saying, and the majority opinion in this thread is making me rethink. i'll put it down to being brainwashed by the patriarchy ; )
              i never meant to imply that our decisions and responsibilities should be defined by personal consequences; i just imagine that the severity of the consequences probably affect how seriously people take them.

            #11
            Jessica
            For some reason I can tag you here but if I try to comment on my post where you left a comment it won't let me tag you.
            ANYWAYS
            I didnt mean that there wouldn't be side effects to a male pill. I just mean that if the female in a particular relationship experiences side effects and the male doesn't, it would be a better option for the male to take the birth control

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            • Jessica
              Jessica commented
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              yeah, for sure. i just wondered if there was a higher likelihood of fewer side effects.

              when you tag in a comment, it doesn't come up as if it's going to work.. but if you type the Meliai it still comes up as a tag when you post : )

            #12
            wouldn't it be the best thing ever if both genders could just turn off their reproductive ability at will.

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            • tumbling.dice
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              To the best of my knowledge, humans are the only species on the planet that will deliberately try not to have offspring. That makes us kind of weird.

            • Jessica
              Jessica commented
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              tumbling.dice yeah, interesting thought... i've never looked into what we know about the species that they say have sex for the pleasure.. dolphins and bonobos for example

            #13
            I did the implant, stopped the monthlies ?

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              #14
              I know lots of couples and married people where the female takes the pill and they've been together for several years or more, so I don't see why I male pill couldn't be used in the same scenario.

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                #15
                Originally posted by Irminsul View Post
                I know lots of couples and married people where the female takes the pill and they've been together for several years or more, so I don't see why I male pill couldn't be used in the same scenario.
                I got snipped long ago...she actually stood there and watched the doctor do it. Seems that might have been gross to watch.
                Then she said she wanted to get fixed too, I'm like why? No response.
                two years later, she scheduled a week and a half off work. Came home after her first day (a half day, supposedly) and said she'd been to the Dr, thought she pulled a groin muscle. Was taking Hydrocodone (yeah I'd liked to have had some too lol)...no sex the whole time she was off, she laid in bed the whole time watching tv, except to go outside to smoke.
                Guess she thought I was too dam dum to figure that sh!t out! Lmao
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