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    Okay, I'm gonna fess up here. I've noticed that quite a few TF folks are encouraging ill Duce to go for his fantasies big time! And this concerns me both as a human being and a Zen Buddhist.

    I mean, sending him clothes and even weapons to make his fantasy come true? Even if it's meant to be funny, it really is not.

    Matt (like all of us) has a good and bad part that makes him the person he is. And I believe he is a good person. So why not encourage that part of his personality, instead of fixating on so much darkness?

    Also, and I pray it does not happen, if someone is harmed due to this unhealthy interest in his darker aspects, are we not complicit?

    I hope this is all a joke. Trust me, The Joker is not a joke (he's a fictional character) that should be guided into the light of day, and kept back from the oftentimes sinister seduction of the night. Just my 2 cents. And I say it with love and concern - not judgement and hatred. ill Duce, be careful what you wish for, brother. Big time. You are not a killer (at heart).

    Bush - Everything Zen


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      BTW, this is an ill Duce appreciation thread. This old tune made me think of Matt (maybe cause Steve Miller says he's a Joker). Post your pics, music, jokes - just keep it positive. Okay, TF People? Happy Saturday ;-)

      Steve Miller Band - The Joker





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          Okay, I'm gonna fess up here. I've noticed that quite a few TF folks are encouraging ill Duce to go for his fantasies big time! And this concerns me both as a human being and a Zen Buddhist.

          I mean, sending him clothes and even weapons to make his fantasy come true? Even if it's meant to be funny, it really is not.

          Matt (like all of us) has a good and bad part that makes him the person he is. And I believe he is a good person. So why not encourage that part of his personality, instead of fixating on so much darkness?

          Also, and I pray it does not happen, if someone is harmed due to this unhealthy interest in his darker aspects, are we not complicit?

          I hope this is all a joke. Trust me, The Joker is not a joke (he's a fictional character) that should be guided into the light of day, and kept back from the oftentimes sinister seduction of the night. Just my 2 cents. And I say it with love and concern - not judgement and hatred. ill Duce, be careful what you wish for, brother. Big time. You are not a killer (at heart).

          Bush - Everything Zen

          I just want to be a super villain who fights God when God is being an asshole.

          The only people I want dead are people who constantly con and hurt people or make the planet more miserable.

          I wish to be the Joker some day who uses the dark side to make people chuckle is all and be an Antichrist who makes Jesus laugh, whose whore of Babylon prostitutes herself out to the nations to feed Jesus food when he's hungry, gives him clothing and new shoes, comforts him, what you do for the least of God's people you do for Christ.

          Christ was a friend of sluts and whores anyway. I wish to simply be a good antichrist who fights God over things extremely stupid that God himself knows is bullshit like the Bible.

          Want to make world peace and peace between heaven and Hell, be a sign and wonder worker, and when worthless sons of bitches need to be put out of their misery, do it in a way that makes them die very comfortably.

          I don't see what's wrong with that. If every complete and total sadistic, sociopathic, dishonest con artist who does nothing but hurt people and take advantage , nothing but materialistic and hedonistic pieces of shit without an ounce of charity in their hearts are put out of their misery quickly and painlessly, even if it was 25% of the world,

          ....why would that be a bad thing?

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            Yes, I've shared this song before but still....

            Oh and I want to fulfill the stupid book of revelation in the most stupid ridiculous way that makes the Bible and Religion look like a total joke that even God thinks is funny.


            But I'm not a very funny clown yet. I heard the latest Joker movie made people more sick than was funny or charming. Lol. Sounds like someone I know.

            Ill be a funny clown one day.

            And I want to get Jesus high on Meth.



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              Revelation is prophecy

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                #8
                Originally posted by ill Duce View Post
                The only people I want dead are people who constantly con and hurt people or make the planet more miserable.
                ill Duce You mean like Hitler? He lived in luxury (by robbing the Jews) until he organized his sinister death camps. Then he killed them all. How was he able to get away w/that? Sadly, Anne Frank could only speak through her amazing diary. While he shrieked out his idiotic speeches to the masses.

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                  Originally posted by PacificDude View Post

                  ill Duce You mean like Hitler? He lived in luxury (by robbing the Jews) until he organized his sinister death camps. Then he killed them all. How was he able to get away w/that? Sadly, Anne Frank could only speak through her amazing diary. While he shrieked out his idiotic speeches to the masses.
                  Hitler should have been killed by God as a baby or murdered as soon as his book came out.

                  Mussolini made a huge mistake in an alliance with him for which Il Duce said was terrible and that he had blood on his hands and would pay dearly for it.

                  It means Mussolini wasn't a total monster. He even had Jews in the original highest ranks of the Fascist party and Jewish lovers.

                  Il Duce simply let his hatred for Communism and his dream of a great United States of Europe, being 20th Century Caesar of a revived Roman Empire get the best of him as France was falling to the Nazis , that he sided with a guy he didn't like because only Hitler could stand up to rapidly spreading Communism.

                  Mussolini was a good man who made bad choices and many great choices. Hitler was a total angry hateful sociopath.

                  Hitler was nice to animals though. I'll give him that.

                  But I said evil people should be comfortably put out of their misery. That means no torture for even Hitler or anyone.

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                    ill Duce BTW, we both come from the Ghetto, so I'm wondering how the hell you are gonna walk around in your Joker outfit without being attacked or challenged? Hell, I was once assaulted by 4 crazy dudes just for wearing a red beret?

                    I just don't want you to get hurt.

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                      People don't typically fuck with me. I have a history of stopping trains and breaking windows and slashing tires and physically assaulting people with an attempted murder charge.

                      Plus, they know mentally ill people with psychosis are shooting up schools and killing people in the ghetto all the time.

                      I'm sure you have seen this, but does the guy in this video look like he's too phased by people jumping him:



                      Also, it's true, I might get shot. I've always actually wanted to get shot. Better than getting old or dying of cancer.

                      I've actually reached in my pocket telling cops I had a gun and charged them trying to get shot. Instead I got tazed and my arm yanked out of socket.

                      Better luck next time!

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                        Originally posted by ill Duce View Post
                        ...Hitler was nice to animals though. I'll give him that.
                        ill Duce Tell that to Anne Frank and her family. They were tortured big time by Herr Hitler (the animal lover) and his sadistic cronies...

                        P.S. Has the super cool Joker outfit arrived yet? Were you able to find the perfect butcher knife?Just curious what it will be like the first time you take a stroll through the hood as The Joker with pride...

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                          I was on Joker's side in the movie (The Dark Knight.) Not saying Batman wasn't a good guy, buy look at all of his money..."One fundraiser with my friends...you'll never need another dime." Or something like that.

                          It was all self-congratulatory. The citizens of Gotham were just little cowards. They weren't feeding the poor. The guy who threw Joker's detonation device away? A prisoner.

                          (Which, the Joker's master plan didn't hinge on those boats blowing up, anyway. If he had needed them to blow up, they would have.)

                          And what did Joker actually achieve? He destroyed the mob! And he said, "Money burns. Everything burns." Or something like that, which is really all the Batman protects.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by PacificDude View Post

                            ill Duce Tell that to Anne Frank and her family. They were tortured big time by Herr Hitler (the animal lover) and his sadistic cronies...

                            P.S. Has the super cool Joker outfit arrived yet? Were you able to find the perfect butcher knife?Just curious what it will be like the first time you take a stroll through the hood as The Joker with pride...
                            There won't be much pride involved. No fear either though.

                            And Hitler like Joseph Stalin who was worse with a higher kill count, should have both been put out of their misery because they were already tortured souls.

                            I see no point in torturing them further. I try to see the good in both. Stalin was actually very Spiritual as a kid, even went to seminary, but repeatedly Christians were mean to him plus made fun of her, so he went on to be the second, if not the first, greatest Christian killer of all time.

                            He had no Father, his mother ran away from home with him and he was abused by multiple men. I know that abuse and being unloved or scandalized can create hatred and sociopathic tendancies.

                            So, were it up to me, even Joseph Stalin and Hitler would repent and be given healthy brains and Nirvana or Heaven some day.

                            But Ann Frank should have far greater reward than both of course.

                            But I don't believe anyone should be tortured. I think torture is already what hateful people are living in.

                            If you repeatedly kick a puppy and never love it, it will grow up to be a brutal killer.

                            Hitler had bad experiences with Jews because he saw that 90% of Jews were completely secular, had no loyalty or patriotism or love for Germany, and were participating in the Communist infiltration into Germany which was destabilizing things for a red revolution.

                            Germany actually almost fell to Communism which is the reason people chose the Nazi party (which never won the popular vote btw). People got so scared of the inevitable civil war that would break out with Communists that they decided Hitler was a necessary evil.

                            Hitler thought that with Germany losing the war, better to wipe out the Jews lest Europe fall like dominoes to Communism and secularism.

                            Now, you can't persecute an entire ethnicity of people just because 90% of them aren't good for the country. It isn't fair to the 10% who are, and I have much sympathy for Jews as they have always been a minority labeled as "Christ killers" who reject Jesus and have no possibility of salvation.

                            So I don't blame Jews for despising Christianity and most of them (Israel, the only Jewish state, is 90% atheist) hatred for the Bible , they are one of the biggest promoters of secularism per capita.

                            The Bible says stupid shit
                            like a raped virgin should marry her rapist, Jews should annihilate gentile cities, and kill people for working on Sabbath. I don't blame Jews for hating the Bible (I'm not talking about Orthodox Jews. Most Jews are not Orthodox Jews).

                            But I see that Hitler also believed a disproportionate number of Jews supported the Bolsheviks, which I've studied quite thoroughly, and it's an undeniable fact even from sources that are in favor of Zionism.

                            So, Ann Frank I pray to and invoke on a daily basis with Meadow Pollack, Lisa Levy, Jamie Guttenberg, and sometimes Franz Wurfel (Jewish man who wrote the Catholic hit "Song of Bernadette" which became a great seller, without actually converting to Christianity) , Victor Frankl, Eddie Weisel (Author of night), David Ben Gurion, and used to have a shrine to the Jew from the Korean war who single handedly held off an entire North Korean regiment before getting captured.

                            Then cleaned up wounded prisoners who shit themselves and cared for the sick. I actually forgot his name so will start honoring him again now that you inspired me.

                            Some of my favorite people are Jewish and in fact I was raised Jewish on my mom's side





                            But I see where Hitler was coming from as well. Doesn't mean I think Hitler should not have been a miscarriage or drowned in a bathtub as a baby, because he should have been, but I see why he thought he was doing the world a favor, despite what he did was the 3rd ugliest thing anyone has ever done after Mao's great leap forward which killed roughly 60 million including the annihilation of sparrows, and Joseph Stalin's killing of 40 million.

                            Pol Pot per capita was worse than Hitler as well. So, I don't see why Hitler is vilified as the worse man in History, when others were far worse, they just don't get hardly any attention. You can wear a hammer an sickle T shirt in the Twin Cities and wave such a flag without getting any crap.

                            Try waving a swastika or wearing such a t-shirt. So, I think Hitler has honestly been treated unfairly in view of how worse monsters are accepted or tolerated!
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                              Originally posted by neonspectraltoast View Post
                              I was on Joker's side in the movie (The Dark Knight.) Not saying Batman wasn't a good guy, buy look at all of his money..."One fundraiser with my friends...you'll never need another dime." Or something like that.

                              It was all self-congratulatory. The citizens of Gotham were just little cowards. They weren't feeding the poor. The guy who threw Joker's detonation device away? A prisoner.

                              (Which, the Joker's master plan didn't hinge on those boats blowing up, anyway. If he had needed them to blow up, they would have.)

                              And what did Joker actually achieve? He destroyed the mob! And he said, "Money burns. Everything burns." Or something like that, which is really all the Batman protects.
                              Mussolini destroyed the mob (Italian mafia) and made crime and gang activity almost non-existent. He also created unprecedented unity and employment down to roughly 1%. Sounds like a good Joker to me.

                              Also, he fucked up in 1938 (as a Grandfather who should have retired already like his wife commanded him to,) but even his involvement in World War 2 was originally as a peacemaker who condemned Hitler's wars of aggression, stalled Hitler's invasion of two nations with his troops on the border of Austria, and incessant phone calls.

                              That's why Hitler actually was threatening to invade Italy for Mussolini being unfaithful to the "Pact of Steel", and only Britain was left and Britain lost every battle and retreated to their island. It's a big reason why Il Duce sided with Germany.

                              It was still fucked up, but Italy spent their raw materials and natural resources abolishing slavery in Africa and fighting the Spanish Civil war to prop of Fascist Froncois regime under Dictator Franco. They had shit for a military and a Nazi invasion of Italy would have also been terrible for Italian Jews as well because Italy would have been overrun in probably two weeks max and replaced by a far worse regime.


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                              , and not let all the land fall to the Nazis.

                              He truly fucked up after 1938 but I can easily see why , and think he's the most misunderstood leader in the history of humanity.
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