Should people be allowed to abuse mice, turn them into drug addicts etc?

[Matthew Mussolini]

Mice live a tragic tale as it is , always living their lives in fear, tortured by cats, hated as pests, always running away. They are actually very intelligent creatures.

Then they are hooked on meth at labs, given cancer causing chemicals, endlessly experimented on and injected with all kinds of crazy stuff, separated from their mothers, starved to death, their hands and feet shocked so that they are delivered food or drugs to see how many shocks they will endure for drugs, and countless other tortures forced upon them.

I'm not bothered by a mouse getting killed by a mouse trap. The cruel fate of mice does bother me. The life of a mouse is one of chronic fear and panic, rejection, and hatred as a pest.

It's a tragic tale indeed! They can be quite brilliant and affectionate when loved at a young age and provided for. I used to keep them as pets!

[Matthew Mussolini]

Okay,

I confess,
I fed some of the mice to my pet boa constrictor and Burmese Python as a kid. I wasn't always nice to them.

But I would never hurt a mouse now.

[Matthew Mussolini]

If there is a nuclear holocaust and humans go extinct,

guess who will survive:

[Amerijuanican]

so will cockroaches, supposedly

[mallyboppa]

and Keith Richards

[neonspectraltoast]

Just now someone on my video said "mouse."

I think they r so cute!!!

[Matthew Mussolini]

If humans go extinct....

And mice don't.....

Will Mice ever mutate and evolve into something that resembles a Homo Sapien??

Any evolution experts want to grant a hypothesis on that

[Audiogen]

I lean towards yes on allowing researchers to experiment on mice but it's certainly an ethical dilemma that a part of me doesn't particularly like. I think experimenting on mice can provide valuable research that can broadly help humans, such as provide a general understanding of the efficacy/safety of drugs or better understand neurotransmitters.

I don't think using reptiles or insects would provide as much insight as mammals so we cannot really substitute them for the same type of research.

[Audiogen]

If humans go extinct....

And mice don't.....

Will Mice ever mutate and evolve into something that resembles a Homo Sapien??

Any evolution experts want to grant a hypothesis on that

Don't claim to be an expert but Mice wouldn't directly evolve into something resembling humans. I suppose it's possible mice could be the parent species of several transitional species that evolve over the course of many millions of years that leads to something that resembles Humans. If I'm not mistaken, there was some shrew-like animal that lived during the time of the dinosaurs which humans are thought to be descended from.

[6-eyed]

Yes we should experiment on small animals. Medical science has come a long way from animal testing. We should give thanks to the small animals that gave their lives unwillingly for the benefit of technological advancement.

A park statue in Russia pays tribute to lab mice

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monument_to_the_laboratory_mouse

[Amerijuanican]

I lean towards yes on allowing researchers to experiment on mice but it's certainly an ethical dilemma that a part of me doesn't particularly like. I think experimenting on mice can provide valuable research that can broadly help humans, such as provide a general understanding of the efficacy/safety of drugs or better understand neurotransmitters.

I don't think using reptiles or insects would provide as much insight as mammals so we cannot really substitute them for the same type of research.

I can understand using them for experiments, however like everything else it is likely done when unnecessary. Some day their departed souls will probably come back, trap us and experiment on humans.

[Amerijuanican]

Mice live a tragic tale as it is , always living their lives in fear, tortured by cats, hated as pests, always running away. They are actually very intelligent creatures.

Then they are hooked on meth at labs, given cancer causing chemicals, endlessly experimented on and injected with all kinds of crazy stuff, separated from their mothers, starved to death, their hands and feet shocked so that they are delivered food or drugs to see how many shocks they will endure for drugs, and countless other tortures forced upon them.

I'm not bothered by a mouse getting killed by a mouse trap. The cruel fate of mice does bother me. The life of a mouse is one of chronic fear and panic, rejection, and hatred as a pest.

It's a tragic tale indeed! They can be quite brilliant and affectionate when loved at a young age and provided for. I used to keep them as pets!

I know of one unintended experiment that occurred back around 1980... a guy in my auto mechanics class had a bag of buzz in his car (69 Camaro) and when we got out of class he found a dead puffed-up mouse in his bag of weed.

[Audiogen]

I can understand using them for experiments, however like everything else it is likely done when unnecessary. Some day their departed souls will probably come back, trap us and experiment on humans.

It's beyond the purview of science to consider the prospect of rodent spectres coming back to exact revenge.

[Matthew Mussolini]

I lean towards yes on allowing researchers to experiment on mice but it's certainly an ethical dilemma that a part of me doesn't particularly like. I think experimenting on mice can provide valuable research that can broadly help humans, such as provide a general understanding of the efficacy/safety of drugs or better understand neurotransmitters.

I don't think using reptiles or insects would provide as much insight as mammals so we cannot really substitute them for the same type of research.

Animal cruelty is animal cruelty!

[Matthew Mussolini]

It's beyond the purview of science to consider the prospect of rodent spectres coming back to exact revenge.

Karma might get us in the form of a plague.

[Audiogen]

Animal cruelty is animal cruelty!

As Maynard from Tool so eloquently stated "The universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been"

If this was pre-1900, you would most likely be dead within a few years. I mean increased life expectancy is not solely due to medications and better biological understanding but it's a part of it.

[Irminsul]

ive always heard the fabled "cockroaches will survive a nuclear holocaust" and I don't buy it, galvanised by this one photo alone.
That miniscule fragments from an aerosol can knock them down like no tomorrow.