Cultural Appropriation

[Jessica]

I just don't care.

My belief is that every single human came from and returns to the same place. The cultures we separate ourselves into only have meaning during this life.

"Getting offended" is a decision. Unless someone is literally harming or infringing on the freedom of someone else, they are not doing anything wrong.

It makes no sense to get offended if someone wears something, uses something, or believes something that is from another culture. It just doesn't matter.

[Undies]

Yeah it's one thing if someone is intentionally making fun of a culture. If someone thinks something from another culture is cool and wants to do it themselves, it seems like the appropriated culture should be flattered rather than offended. Or really, neutral, because what does it matter either way if someone who isn't you dresses a certain way?

[neonspectraltoast]

The problem is people take things from a culture at the most surface level and no one ever appreciates the culture they came from and why.

But it's not that huge of a problem. Just the cherry on top of a culture of idiocy.

[rolling]

I just don't care. It just doesn't matter.

to you it doesnt matter...and it is you that does not care.......doesnt give you the right to decide for other people,groups,cultures, etc etc what matters to them.....it just means you choose to disregard others feelings..........your argument is weak and selfish.......


we have 2 million indigenous peoples in canada.....many here choose to have respect for them and for ther beliefs

[6-eyed]

It doesn't matter to your prime minister either



But of course it's OK when he does it

[Din Djarin]

It doesn't matter until it does. Maybe 90% of all real life examples of cultural appropriation do not matter that much or not at all. But yeah, some do matter because of the combi of details of the group that feels wronged, in which form it exactly comes and by who/what. To dismiss it all as trivial seems wrong.

[Undies]

we have 2 million indigenous peoples in canada.....many here choose to have respect for them and for ther beliefs

But how is it disrespectful to like something enough to emulate it? That sounds more like paying homage to me.

Yes, it can be done disrespectfully, but I don't see why it automatically is disrespectful.

[Meliai]

I think it only matters in cases where either the majority group (in most cases, white people lol) is profiting from borrowing traditions that other cultures have been marginalized for practicing, or when active harm is being done.

and I'm not really convinced any white person on the internet is qualified to say ALL of one culture feels offended because white people have appropriated something from their culture. 9 times out of 10 it's a white person stating how people from a particular culture feel about it. I remember reading through a comment section once where white people were bitching about white people culturally appropriating dreadlocks but then black people were commenting and stating they didn't really care one way or another how anyone wore their hair.
So that's a whole other issue, white people speaking on behalf of how they think minorities might feel and putting them into a box where they all must feel the same way just because they belong to the same culture.

And like I pointed out in the other thread, multiple cultures all over the world and in different time periods have had very similar practices. That is the way of the human lol. It's hard for one particular culture to claim dreadlocks, or to claim smoke cleansing, or animism, etc etc

I can understand that its annoying when people from other cultures treat deeply spiritual practices within your culture without the proper reverence.
But i've also seen where sometimes the opposite happens and people from one culture really enjoy when those outside of their culture take an interest, however surface level that interest might be.

[Undies]

and I'm not really convinced any white person on the internet is qualified to say ALL of one culture feels offended because white people have appropriated something from their culture. 9 times out of 10 it's a white person stating how people from a particular culture feel about it. I remember reading through a comment section once where white people were bitching about white people culturally appropriating dreadlocks but then black people were commenting and stating they didn't really care one way or another how anyone wore their hair.
So that's a whole other issue, white people speaking on behalf of how they think minorities might feel and putting them into a box where they all must feel the same way just because they belong to the same culture.

outrage appropriation.

[Meliai]

Exactly!

[rolling]

I don't see why it automatically is disrespectful.

as i was saying...and will now say in a different way....it doesnt matter what you think...it matters what ''they'' think....go ahead and don a head dress , paint yer self up and rain dance all the way to jess's place....i choose to not do that shit is all

[rolling]

Meliai are you serious?.....color of your skin does not disqualify you from having knowledge of another culture and even being able to speak up for them...i dont see any reservation living members flocking here so why cant i speak up?

havnt you ever heard of ''speak up against racism''...same goes for other things too...i like to speak out

[6-eyed]

When the non-western world adopt and enjoy luxuries such as electricity, indoor plumbing, the internet, motorized transport, green energy, etc. that's essentially cultural appropriation. As those things predominantly came from western societies.

Maybe we should deprive them of these luxuries as they are "stealing" from another culture.

That's the logic of the whole left-wing religious taboo of cultural appropriation.

[WritersPanic]

The thing is though, where do we draw the line on what is culture and what are scientific truths (like electricity) that are universal and don't express culture in any meaningful way? I personally think "cultural appropriation" is yet another manufactured grievance. There are indeed cultural aspects of the various kinds of European people that have become universally accepted without any complaints.

[rolling]

When the non-western world adopt and enjoy luxuries such as electricity, indoor plumbing, the internet, motorized transport, green energy, etc. that's essentially cultural appropriation. As those things predominantly came from western societies.

Maybe we should deprive them of these luxuries as they are "stealing" from another culture.

That's the logic of the whole leftist religious taboo of cultural appropriation.

lol.....if you were a lawyer you would be broke....weak arguments so peripheral to the main point its not even worth debating your actual post....


elaine..now you're being ridiculous

[Quark]

I’ve “appropriated” Chinese culture to the point I feel like a visitor whenever I’m in Canada.

I really just think it’s a western problem.

In fact, if I didn’t try my best to “fit in” here, they’d probably hate me.

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Also, it’s usually (and I don’t mean this rudely) people that have nothing to offer the world that complain about this shit the loudest.

Basically they long to complain about something but haven’t done anything worthy of being talked about, so they complain on the behalf of others that have actually done something.

[Meliai]

Meliai are you serious?.....color of your skin does not disqualify you from having knowledge of another culture and even being able to speak up for them...i dont see any reservation living members flocking here so why cant i speak up?

havnt you ever heard of ''speak up against racism''...same goes for other things too...i like to speak out

Some things are objectively wrong and harmful and yes I agree people shouldn't be afraid to speak out on matters that actively cause harm

But in this case you aren't speaking out on whether or not something causes harm, you are speaking out on whether or not something is offensive.
and what is offensive varies by individual. You as a white person can't speak out on what individual indigenous Americans find offensive when they're not a monolith and not all of them are offended or even care about such things
(when you brought it up in the other thread i did research because I never want to speak out of ignorance, and I came across a forum where a native American was encouraging white people to explore animism because their pagan
ancestors in Europe practiced it too. As an example. You can't speak for that person)

I mean you're conveniently ignoring the example I gave of white people speaking on behalf of black people in regards to dreadlocks, and then in that specific example speaking OVER black people who didnt feel that way at all

[rolling]

Some things are objectively wrong and harmful and yes I agree people shouldn't be afraid to speak out on matters that actively cause harm

But in this case you aren't speaking out on whether or not something causes harm, you are speaking out on whether or not something is offensive.
and what is offensive varies by individual. You as a white person can't speak out on what individual indigenous Americans find offensive when they're not a monolith and not all of them are offended or even care about such things
(when you brought it up in the other thread i did research because I never want to speak out of ignorance, and I came across a forum where a native American was encouraging white people to explore animism because their pagan
ancestors in Europe practiced it too. As an example. You can't speak for that person)

I mean you're conveniently ignoring the example I gave of white people speaking on behalf of black people in regards to dreadlocks, and then in that specific example speaking OVER black people who didnt feel that way at all

not ignoring anything..... i honestly dont care paast afew sentences...if you guys find it so easy to do this shit go ahead....if you need to find examples backing your opinion and like 6 find a lame pictorial about my pm???....i dont care.....i hope y'all are happy and live long healthy lives being looked after by your collective spirit animals and enjoying your Pocahontas halloween costumes