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    What social stigma does society need to get over?

    I'm not gonna use the ugly F word , but seriously, A one-party state with unity, media that supports the regime, enlightened benevolent absolute monarch, enlightened by God and wise ancient spirits, absolute Theocracy, patriotism, unity, youth groups, families that stay together, an entertainment industry that doesn't allow glorification of hedonism,lust, deadly sins, and that which weakens or divides people....

    ....a society where there is prayer in schools, mothers dont kill their children, and the government pays those who cant afford children....The final call comes from A Caesar, an Emperor, A supreme leader whose image is everywhere and omnipresent, A prophet and vicar (mouthpiece) of God and the Kami, who knows what is best for the people and has the final say so.... How is that a terrible thing?

    Yet that type of utopia is demonized as the ugliest thing in politics, and anyone who desires that type of civilization is despized.

    Anyway, what is a social stigma society needs to get over?
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    #2
    It’s deemed an ugly thing because the emperor who makes the final call is a flawed, imperfect, corruptible, mortal human just like the rest of us. People who wield that much power become very easily corrupted. It’s also a system where opposing views are unheard and not tolerated. It’s been proven time and time again. Great ideas come from free expression, and what you’re advocating is antithetical to free expression.

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      #3
      what you see as right and good is not right and good for everyone, and that's okay.
      you don't make the world better by persuading or forcing everyone to live by your ideals and morals, you make the world better by creating an environment where every individual has the freedom to be themselves, and conduct their lives in the way that suits them, so long as they aren't harming others' ability to do the same.

      i do see where you're coming from, the society you describe sounds "good", but people cannot be who they aren't. If a person wants to devote themselves to a hedonistic pursuit, we should let them. if we are all God, as i think we are, then this whole reality is possibly just about experiencing. "God" wants to experience being everything, doing everything, doing wrong and bad things, being redeemed, forgiving, finding enlightenment.

      it's all a perfectly unfolding creation. we can't change other people. some of us can help to create tangible changes in the way society is run.. but the only way to change the world is to "be the change you want to see". Live the way you believe people should live, and accept that that might not be the way that suits someone else.

      I used to think a monarchy might actually be better than the democracy we currently have, for similar reasons as you describe having one leader as an answer. I thought that having a leader who was born to the role, and trained to lead, would be better. But I don't agree with that now. Or if I do, I think that it has to be framed as the leader is serving their people. Every person should be free, and under the rule of no-one. "Leaders" are (or should be) people who help preserve that, and who can guide people along THEIR individual paths.

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        #4
        also in answer to the question.. there should be no stigma about choosing to not have biological children.

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          #5
          There should be more social stigmas imo. People in the US confuse freedom and personal irresponsibility.

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            #6
            Originally posted by 6-eyed View Post
            It’s deemed an ugly thing because the emperor who makes the final call is a flawed, imperfect, corruptible, mortal human just like the rest of us. People who wield that much power become very easily corrupted. It’s also a system where opposing views are unheard and not tolerated. It’s been proven time and time again. Great ideas come from free expression, and what you’re advocating is antithetical to free expression.
            You do realize that in Christian Theology, Christ returns as an Emperor to destroy his enemies or place them under his feet, rule over the world, outlaw freedom to be unclean and essentially outlaw sin.

            I don't know how he will manage this one, but the book of revelation says "nothing unclean shall enter my kingdom."

            Everyone will also be required to worship and obey the leader.

            Ancient Israel was the government of God and it resembled a far-right, Nationalist, Patriotic, intolerant, rigid, pro-life, spiritual, religious, military Dictatorship.

            I'm not saying I agree with God , but I feel kinda obliged to promote his form of government, regardless of whether or not I agree. It's about the salvation of souls.

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            • the Riddler
              the Riddler commented
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              Sounds like a cult.

            #7
            I think Democracy is mob rule and can be bad for the economy and morality of the people and break up families, cause society to become sexually perverted and hedonistic through pornography addictions and entertainment glorifying immorality, cause an enormous amount of unwanted pregnancies through selfishness and lust, and a need to kill off 25% of our children through abortion.

            I think Democracy is divided with parties constantly bashing each other and fighting for control. I think it's bad for the economy.

            A house divided cannot stand. If mom says to do one thing and Dad says to do the opposite, it weakens the family and household.

            If the media chronically puts down the leader and mocks him, telling people to resist and rebel and disobey him (as our media does) it divides the country and weakens the economy and patriotism.

            There have been Dictators who were benevolent, and only took away freedoms that were harming society, and used violence when it was necessary to uproot the errors of a much greater evil.

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              #8
              Originally posted by ill Duce View Post

              You do realize that in Christian Theology, Christ returns as an Emperor to destroy his enemies or place them under his feet, rule over the world, outlaw freedom to be unclean and essentially outlaw sin.

              I don't know how he will manage this one, but the book of revelation says "nothing unclean shall enter my kingdom."

              Everyone will also be required to worship and obey the leader.

              Ancient Israel was the government of God and it resembled a far-right, Nationalist, Patriotic, intolerant, rigid, pro-life, spiritual, religious, military Dictatorship.

              I'm not saying I agree with God , but I feel kinda obliged to promote his form of government, regardless of whether or not I agree. It's about the salvation of souls.
              I’m not into Christianity. But I do know Christians see Christ and God as perfect flawless beings. That being said, the appointed leaders of nations are not godlike. They are corruptible, have flaws, and are capable of making terrible decisions that will harm their people in the long run. Jingoism And fascism are dangerous ideologies.

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                #9
                Women going topless in public or at least places like the beach. I'm not sure topless women driving on the freeway or bumpy roads would be such a great idea.
                Last edited by Audiogen; 10-04-2020, 08:18 PM.

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                • Jessica
                  Jessica commented
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                  I second this but without the exceptions. I assume you're saying it'd be distracting for men and lesbians but that's ridiculous. Most men would find a bikini top clad women equally distracting.
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