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    Is it just me or does the topic of "Patriotic Education" sound like "Reeducation"?

    Throughout my life I've been taught "My country right or wrong", "If you don't love America you can leave" etc. Been in Glee Club singing "This is My Country" and "Yankee Doodle Dandy" and forced to stand in the classroom and pledge allegiance to a flag. In retrospect that is some serious indoctrination shit.

    As I've gotten older I've learned to question that. Been shown and told that the constitution is a living document. I'm drinking a beer realizing that 100 years ago this would be unconstitutional. My family were bootleggers freely going against a law that they saw was unjust. From looking back at the founding fathers, the constitution the concept of checks and balances built into the document I see that we are as far from that as the hawk is from the moon.

    The history of the United States has supposedly been about questioning the powers that be and holding them accountable, not blindly being beholden to them.

    I'm too young to remember Watergate, but old enough to remember Iran Contra (the same people I see here screaming about sex laws in California praise Bill Barr who justified selling weapons to people raping nuns in Central America). I grew up next to a military base during the Cold War. I've been slightly exposed to the work of Thomas Payne (I feel a deep dive coming on) and hearing a little about Haymarket Square (Imagine Portland with Live Rounds).

    I've seen the same people who cheered when the statues of Lenin and Saddam Hussein fall clutch their pearls when it was Confederate War Generals.

    The history of America has allegedly been about standing up against brutality and for justice. Now when people do it they are labelled as "Terrorists" by people who are afraid of the "Thought Police". They clutch their pearls at the Black Panthers been portrayed as heroes despite robbing banks when white people like The James Gang and Billy The Kid have also been portrayed as heroes for doing the same thing (can you see the obvious difference?).

    Given world history the idea of "Patriotic Education" has always been a code word for indoctrination. Post Orwell the term has been replaced with "Reeducation" when every country except the US has done it which is the perfect example of doublespeak.

    To hear a US President use the term "Patriotic Education" should raise some red flags.

    C/S,
    Rev J

    #2
    Re education would be the cancel culture that has cancelled you with their critical race theory bs and SJW indoctrinization!

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      #3
      You seem to already be indoctrinated into the Trump right the way you mindlessly spew meaningless catch phrases, unfounded conspiracies, and talk like fighting for social justice is a bad thing.

      Thomas Payne advocated fighting for social justice in the 1700's, the American Revolution was based on the fight for social justice, so was abolition, so was women's suffrage, so was the civil rights movement etc. The reason that we are still fighting for social justice is because it hasn't been achieved yet.

      You see no reason to change the system because you are so myopic that you only see that the system appears to work for you. The right is doing what it's always done use fear to try and keep the people in line and maintain the status quo. They give you a target of hatred that isn't them and you don't question it.

      I look at what you say you believe and wonder if you have any common sense. Do you honestly believe that it is legal to defecate in public anywhere besides a village in a 3rd world country that doesn't have indoor plumbing? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Did you ever think to fact check that with a source that isn't a tabloid?

      Any debate with you is like debating a cult member. If you are confronted on your claims with verified facts you always counter it the same way "It's a lie" with no counter facts to back up your claims. Or "Someday you will wake up and see the truth" which is what religious fanatics say.

      That is what actual indoctrination looks like.

      C/S,
      Rev J

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        #4
        Yes. It's fascism. They want to teach us all to be beholden to the state and never question anything. By "they" I specifically mean Trump.

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        • Beach Ball Bitch
          Beach Ball Bitch commented
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          You can love where you live and question the government and actions at the same time. Respect and love for the place you live doesn’t mean you agree with whatever the government does. Nor does it mean one must accept everything.

          Critical race theory is brainwashing! When morality policing happens. Sjw bs, then everyone gets quiet. Which is curbing you freedom of thoughts and expression. Morality police cane after you for the N word. It can happen in person too.

          Former marine Jake Gardner, who killed himself recently. Rioters called him a racist. He wasn’t. Destroyed his business, beat his dad. A 70 year old man, and he was the one arrested for defending himself and father from being killed and very real threat. So who is in the right here? Are you suppose to just let people destroy you? Because the morality police say you are on the wrong side?

          Just not my job to police peoples thoughts and words. Not my job to tell people if they are right or wrong either. I can and do disagree with actions people take. And yep, will defend any living creature being attacked by a mob.
          Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 09-23-2020, 10:06 AM.

        #5
        Right. To me it just seems like the logical next step. After spending years singing "This is My Country" in glee club and saying the Pledge of Allegiance every day (honestly starting the day every school day from kindergarten to graduation pledging allegiance to a flag in unison sounds kinda creepy if you stand back and look at it).

        Honestly when I see a MAGA hat I just want to give the person wearing it the same shit they gave me back verbatim: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!? AMERICA IS GREAT! IT ALWAYS WAS GREAT! AND IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE GREAT! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU CAN LEAVE!!!"

        C/S,
        Rev J

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          #6
          Reading this piece, the phrasing of the quotes reminds me of something out of Nazi Germany:

          https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/politi...political-move

          All of the indoctrination I remember getting in school was right wing. Occasionally like reading "Johnny Got His Gun" in 10th grade which was written by Dalton Trumbo who was a communist but his communism wasn't discussed. We also read "Animal Farm" and discussed it as an allegory for The Russian Revolution. I also read 1984 on my own. I had to discover Leftist thought on my own. I realized how white washed the history I was getting was and how it was being used as propaganda. I think it came hand in hand with discovering Punk Rock.

          I'm kinda rambling now. I'm at work and kinda busy so if I continue this right now i's going to get scattered.

          C/S,
          Rev J

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