On culling human population globally

[WritersPanic]

It occurs to me that if there was some sort of agreement between the 12 or so wealthiest, most singularly powerful each of the human kind, how might they put that plan in motion?

To pull this off on a global scale will take a substantial amount of time overall. There must be a leading plan to sort the myriad variables.

For example:
Which populations of humans do you want to reduce? Even the most efficient method of scaling toes a tight line with the kind of brutal selection processes established by Nazis. The really insidious part is that ultimately it was a ruse to maintain compliance. All of them were to be killed.

Fast forward to today. In a more finite example, we happen to have a very handy disease floating about. What's weird about it is that it has become a political issue in all kinds of bizarre ways. The only words you can trust are those from printed matter that's a couple of decades old regarding infection control.

So look how they have suddenly angered two sides who don't know anything about this. They are telling the people who are to be spared, to stay out of the churches and stay home. Unless you're a Muslim. However, if you want to attend a mass protest with violent rioting, atomized bodily droplets all over the place, masks only used as disguises, "free love" etc, that's just fine. Think about that. In 1980s terms that would be setting everyone up for sickness and death.

Using a disease, via propaganda, to kill off a segment of the population that is prone to the most kinetic and aggressive tactics.

Who remains? The docile, who follow orders and avoid making waves.

[twiceburned]

why spare the sheeple? they're the weakest ones

[WritersPanic]

why spare the sheeple? they're the weakest ones

Because the strong ones may be inclined to effect changes of their own. Or otherwise lobby for them. Compliant people are not physically weak. Compliant labor is money in the bank.

But culling isn't just about seizing/maintaining control. It's about resources. Human population projections have us dodging famines again within a decade. Most in nations that have been called "developing" for decades. Africa has been a resource storage vault for centuries. Development there is slow. South America used to be the same, but the resources were needed. So the continent is being raped to this day.

It can't be sustained. The problem is not linear, it's exponential and the insistence on a continuous growth model is largely to blame. Otherwise we would likely have over-bred the planet by now.

[WritersPanic]

Another thing I don't get is this list of 1,200 or so "Healthcare Professionals" who signed something that says this:

"We created the letter in response to emerging narratives that seemed to malign demonstrations as risky for the public health because of Covid-19. Instead, we wanted to present a narrative that prioritizes opposition to racism as vital to the public health, including the epidemic response.

We believe that the way forward is not to suppress protests in the name of public health but to respond to protesters demands in the name of public health, thereby addressing multiple public health crises."

Where does this make any sense? It's like they are leading people directly into harm's way for the sake of political expediency. How can they possibly do this in the name of healthcare and during a major epidemic? Is mass death on the radar now as a way to win the white house?

I begin to wonder if maybe I've been in an LSD flashback for the last month or so.

[Audiogen]

I don't associate it with LSD, I wonder if everyone has been in the depths of a Cocaine or Crystal Meth binge for the last month. But I get the gist of what you're saying.

[WritersPanic]

Indeed it does. But I was curious if maybe I was having the flashback and the rest of humanity was just happily going about the usual stuff.

[WritersPanic]

I live in that "Controlled" area of West Georgia between the t and the l in Atlanta! All around me shit's gettin bad. Gonna be a long summer.

[Undies]

^ i can't tell what color mine is supposed to be. it could be either emergent, controlled, or zero confirmed cases. the weird thing is that we're being reported as one of the higher counties in the state, yet all of the colors that i'm maybe seeing would put us on the low end.

[WritersPanic]

This video captures the disconnect so well. The narrator is discussing the incident where 2 people were struck by a car while assembling to block interstate 5, a major freeway in the dark of night. The video is rather horrifying, but the narrator's take makes a whole other kind of impact.

[Undies]

whatever the video was, it pissed off youtube pretty quickly.

[WritersPanic]

Yep, they took it down. It was Salty acting like he was broken up over the damage to the car. Bad timing.

[twiceburned]

that's what you get for playing in the road, dumbass.....

[Din Djarin]

For example:
Which populations of humans do you want to reduce?

The ones of countries that have both the biggest population now and will grow in the future, so China for one.

Btw: you can't curb global overpopulation with covid19, no matter what you do in the US. So that's basically a nonsensical scenario.

[WritersPanic]

The ones of countries that have both the biggest population now and will grow in the future, so China for one.

Btw: you can't curb global overpopulation with covid19, no matter what you do in the US. So that's basically a nonsensical scenario.

Sure you can. It could have been done with measles at one time. Any new pathogen has the potential for overrunning us. All it takes is an extreme demand or breakdown of healthcare capabilities.

The poorest people in the US today still have better healthcare than the Rockefellers did a century ago. That requires a substantial infrastructure that can be taken down with electronic ease on a political whim due to cascading failures. And the house of cards we call an economy is fraught with potential failure modes.

Under such a condition Covid, Ebola, West Nile and even rabies can become deadly on a national scale.

What I think is most pernicious about Covid-19 is the way the antibodies subside. Coupled with mutations I doubt we've seen the full potential of it yet. Georgia is experimenting with herd immunity by allowing rural counties to hold regular school attendance. I guess they weren't getting the turnaround they expected from all the meth in these places. But, that's just a theory!

[Din Djarin]

Has the US an overpopulation problem? I thought only locally in some places. Who gets fatally affected by covid19? So no, it can't. Only in some very unlikely hypothetical scenario.

The hypothesis to have a very limited amount of kids for like 2 generations makes more sense imo. Unfortunately it doesn't count for our two countries in regards to curbing global population. As births are already declining here. The solution for curbing global human population lies predominantly in other countries.

[Din Djarin]

So... if you're thinking primarily about american society and how the poor will be affected, you might hit a valid point. But not in regards to global human population on the long term. It won't be curbed significantly by covid19. Maybe it gets a proverbial dent so to speak. But that's likely it

[tumbling.dice]

I wonder why places like Bangladesh are considered to be overpopulated, but places like Manhattan aren't.

[WritersPanic]

The ones of countries that have both the biggest population now and will grow in the future, so China for one.

I had to think on this. Because I am curious about the same position from China's perspective. Under the current arrangement, China has many advantages. Over 40,000 polluting US factories were dismantled and sent to China. They make everything from plastic spoon handles to shoulder-launched missile servos.

They also make a killing by raiding the US patent office. We are sitting on millions of viable patents because of the cost of bringing a product to market in the US. Years ago I was working for Universal Studios on their theme park in Shanghai. One of our field managers was in China doing background work that included photographs of the city, the Bund and the surrounding provinces.

One of his guides asked if he wanted to see a theme park. It was not on the list, but he agreed. The photographs were amazing. The whole park was made of copies of rides and attractions from Disney (including the Small World ride), Universal Studios, Great America. Knotts Berry Farm, Silver Dollar City and Dollywood. All of it literally stolen.

While the Chinese are scoring a Yuan by copying works from the US, Germany, Portugal, France, Sweden and Israel, they are also innovating (something a lot of Americans don't believe they can do). Some of the patents they have copied would likely never have seen market entry before expiration. That's 20 years. Another aspect of this is that most patents are not a unique, free-standing invention. Most are just improvements on existing patents.

The Chinese are implementing some of these changes to get a jump on the market. And they're doing this with plenty of help from US corporations. The inventors are getting screwed, but who cares? As long as we get the latest gadget on our phone before our neighbors, everything is beautiful.

More to the point, I doubt the Chinese have any incentive to poison the US (our pets maybe). So I'm still convinced the virus got out because of pure incompetence, not intent. If it had been intentional, it would have been much worse. A planned effort to infect the US would be very easy to accomplish. Look how insane the response has been to a fairly organic contamination event. It's amazing to see how much time Americans have for being petty, even during a pandemic.

[WritersPanic]

So... if you're thinking primarily about american society and how the poor will be affected, you might hit a valid point. But not in regards to global human population on the long term. It won't be curbed significantly by covid19. Maybe it gets a proverbial dent so to speak. But that's likely it

That depends on the impact it has on developed nations. Most of the developing nations receive substantial propping from the rest of the world. It's why we're not mired in famines like we saw in the 60s and 70s. Heck even the space programs of various nations have contributed to the betterment of humans globally.

If only we could be more efficient with food.

But Karen must have the best strawberries available at Costco any moment of the day/week/year. To keep her quiet, we ship strawberries from Uruguay. Because if she's not happy, she'll go to Sam's.

[Din Djarin]

I had to think on this. Because I am curious about the same position from China's perspective.

Well, they take overpopulation very serious as it seems, for decades already. But still are unable to curb it. Which is discouraging.
I also heard the assertion (by sociologists and the like, as well as politicians) that we dutch people have to make an effort to keep our population at where it is now because otherwise it will decline greatly in like 3 decades (we have a shitload of old people currently). I think WTH does it need to be maintained?! Imagine if every country strived for that.. Absurd.
In the 1950s emigration was encouraged here because there were too many people and too less means and work after WW2 to ensure a good living for everyone. There were like 10 million people less than now! And now we have to try to keep it at 17 million? Because otherwise there are too less citizens.. Lol. Look at how tiny this country is. Sometimes I just wanna move to like Sweden