Subliminal messages

[Guest]

I hate that big corporations use these to entice us. I have been aware of this for many years.

[Audiogen]

Care to elaborate? Are you referring to something specific like promoting ideologies or color psychology or something completely different?

[Guest]

Hidden messages in advertising. Voices in elevator music in department stores. Billboards. We are constantly bombarded by subliminal messages that appeals to our subconscious. It has been going on for a long time.

[Din Djarin]

Which messages disturb you the most?

[Parakeet]

One of the biggest satanists and perverts was Walt Disney. He used sexual images in his cartoons.

Here's a few examples:

[neonspectraltoast]

How can you even focus on the subliminal when the superliminal is like a hatchet to the face?

"Everything is AOK. STAY POSITIVE. BE A GOOD BOY."

[Undies]

Voices in elevator music in department stores.

forget the voices, i've just heard enough elevator music in department stores.

[WritersPanic]

Stores have been doing this for years. Wal-Mart has messages like "Please don't steal" and "shoplifting is a crime" in their sound track. The law only says you cannot use this technology to entice people to buy. But you can legally entice them to stay honest I guess.

[Irminsul]

There was an X Files episode about this.

[Jessica]

This is one of those things people kind of feel is not so serious.. Or is not really happening.. Kind of a joke, and even if it's not a joke it's nothing to worry about. Maybe because everyone feels they won't be affected by it. They don't even realize that they are. Even just using psychology to create associations is a form of subliminal advertising.. And most of the time we'll never know because it's designed to make us feel we came to these desires or conclusions by ourselves.

[Audiogen]

This is one of those things people kind of feel is not so serious.. Or is not really happening.. Kind of a joke, and even if it's not a joke it's nothing to worry about. Maybe because everyone feels they won't be affected by it. They don't even realize that they are. Even just using psychology to create associations is a form of subliminal advertising.. And most of the time we'll never know because it's designed to make us feel we came to these desires or conclusions by ourselves.

Do we just acknowledge and accept it? Do we try to limit our exposure to advertising?

Like I kind of understand how there is a deceptive tactic to subliminal messaging but at the same time if a company is trying to sell a product, I think it's their objective to make it seem as appealing as possible. Is there some line in the sand they shouldn't cross?

[WritersPanic]

Do we just acknowledge and accept it? Do we try to limit our exposure to advertising?

Like I kind of understand how there is a deceptive tactic to subliminal messaging but at the same time if a company is trying to sell a product, I think it's their objective to make it seem as appealing as possible. Is there some line in the sand they shouldn't cross?

I rarely watch "television" anymore. The networks are producing so much crap. Just movies, some series shows and all kinds of news outlets. All of it on the web.

The impact of this was scant until I noticed that it has been years since I saw a feminine hygiene commercial (even during football games). And it's been years since I last had to explain why they were in my shopping cart!

[Jessica]

Do we just acknowledge and accept it? Do we try to limit our exposure to advertising?

Like I kind of understand how there is a deceptive tactic to subliminal messaging but at the same time if a company is trying to sell a product, I think it's their objective to make it seem as appealing as possible. Is there some line in the sand they shouldn't cross?

I find it hard to answer in the realms of keeping society as it is, at all. I think the usefulness of capitalism has ended.

But at least, I would just like to see products advertised as "this is this, and it does this". If it's not something people need, then they will buy it even if it's not advertised at all. For a company to make me choose them over another company, just tell me the genuine and truthful reason why theirs is better/best.
If it's something people don't need, why should they be manipulated into desiring it when they wouldn't have done without the advertising?

[Audiogen]

But at least, I would just like to see products advertised as "this is this, and it does this". If it's not something people need, then they will buy it even if it's not advertised at all. For a company to make me choose them over another company, just tell me the genuine and truthful reason why theirs is better/best.
If it's something people don't need, why should they be manipulated into desiring it when they wouldn't have done without the advertising?

I don't think businesses, particularly big corporations, have the mindset that they sell unnecessary stuff. So they probably approach it as persuading rather than manipulating.

[neonspectraltoast]

No one has ever sold anything unnecessary. All events are of the implicit order of the cosmos. All the events depicted in this recording are vital to the essential nature of this recording. And life, that is the audience.