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  • SpaceMan
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    • Sep 2020
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    #46
    Originally posted by Deidre
    While creating better training (and hiring better candidates to begin with) you can’t train people to not stereotype. You can have psychological training of how to deal with suspects, but there seems to be this idea that all black young men carry guns. So that becomes the excuse “I thought he might have a gun.” Stereotyping and profiling - that’s tough to untrain which is why these types of knee-jerk shoot and ask questions later type officers need to be fired immediately.
    are you saying you think this guy was stereotyped?

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    • SpaceMan
      SpaceMan commented
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      if you dont even know the basics like why daunte was pulled over then its really not even worth my time

    • Deidre
      Deidre commented
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      It was a traffic stop - he had a warrant out because he didn’t show up to court for a gun charge. He didn’t deserve to die, I know that much. Edit to add - Correction, my sister told me tonight that he had a warrant out for his arrest of armed robbery. Either way, that is a tough place for the police officer to be in - I want to believe that she meant to user her tazer gun, so not sure how that will end up. Police officers have a tough job, I see both sides...but they also have to be able to police themselves, like in the Floyd case. If just one of those officers had pushed Chauvin off Floyd, he might not be on trial now for his own life.
      Last edited by Deidre; 04-15-2021, 01:35 AM.

    • SpaceMan
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      your sister was wrong...he had an armed robbery case but the warrant was for fail to appear on charges of illegal firearm possession and fleeing police

      https://i.insider.com/60771c3c74da03...jpeg&auto=webp
  • SpaceMan
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    #47

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    • Undies
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      • Jun 2020
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      #48
      Originally posted by Deidre
      there seems to be this idea that all black young men carry guns.
      when in reality it's all old white men.

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      • neonspectraltoast
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        • Jun 2020
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        #49
        Another family was trying to get rich, but nope...looters destroyed their business, too. I'm sure they won't give up trying to get rich, but it's still so unfair.

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        • Vanilla Gorilla
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          • Jun 2020
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          #50
          So, why are people going to go buy a house in Minneapolis or invest in business if their neighbourhood gets trashed everytime some criminal with an outstanding warrant tries to escape arrest?


          10 years later, place is still a shithole, crime rates the same, criminals trying to escape arrest still get shot


          and the cycle continues

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          • SpaceMan
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            and the democrats solution is ...=defunding the police and taking away guns from law abiding citizens
        • everything bagel
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          • Jun 2020
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          #51
          Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
          So, why are people going to go buy a house in Minneapolis or invest in business if their neighbourhood gets trashed everytime some criminal with an outstanding warrant tries to escape arrest?


          10 years later, place is still a shithole, crime rates the same, criminals trying to escape arrest still get shot


          and the cycle continues
          It's not just Minneapolis. It can happen anywhere in the country at any time. Liberal media will portray this as a noble cause, they'll make a martyr out of the newest victim, the country will burn, and nothing will change.

          That being said, I know you're intelligent enough to understand the backlash isn't about him resisting arrest. It's about him being shot and killed.

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          • Vanilla Gorilla
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            #52
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            • Sooz
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              • Jul 2020
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              #53
              Yet he's dead. A police officer killed him.

              God you are so dumb

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              • SpaceMan
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                probably not a good idea to call God dumb...
            • Vanilla Gorilla
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              #54
              Originally posted by everything bagel

              That being said, I know you're intelligent enough to understand the backlash isn't about him resisting arrest. It's about him being shot and killed.

              Yeah, but it would be like me trashing my own neighbourhood because some white 20 year old with a warrant for unlicensed carry got shot for trying to escape police

              like wtf?

              Even if it was some totally innocent dude, I might join in a march in front of Parliament house, still wouldnt set the local Wendys on fire


              So dumb

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              • SpaceMan
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                did you see the video though?...he looked like he was reaching for something...he didnt try to drive away until after the shot

                it wouldnt surprise me if it comes out later that there was a gun in the car just like that last unarmed guy that admitted he had a knife

              • Beach Ball Bitch
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                SpaceMan
                @Vanilla Gorilla

                Yes and that seems to Be a possibility. Not stopped for an air freshener hanging.

                He had warrants I believe and like floyd and the guy in Kenosha Who were shot... there were similarities.

                Previously Arrested for aggravated robbery on a pregnant woman Or mother..at gun point for 800+ dollars. He was known to be violent. Why He was stopped is really questionable as the family is saying the air freshener BS .. but people latch onto that and the warrant posted will be ignored that VG posted.

                Personally I don't give a fuck what happens to people who do shit like this.
                Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 04-15-2021, 01:39 PM.
            • Vanilla Gorilla
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              #55
              Originally posted by Sooz
              Yet he's dead. A police officer killed him.

              God you are so dumb
              And if he didnt resist arrest, hed still be alive

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              • SpaceMan
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                that a very very hard thing for them to understand
            • everything bagel
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              #56
              Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla


              Yeah, but it would be like me trashing my own neighbourhood because some white 20 year old with a warrant for unlicensed carry got shot for trying to escape police

              like wtf?

              Even if it was some totally innocent dude, I might join in a march in front of Parliament house, still wouldnt set the local Wendys on fire


              So dumb
              I dont know about Australia, but over here people will do that (and worse) when their favorite sports team wins a championship.

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              • everything bagel
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                #57
                Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla

                And if he didnt resist arrest, hed still be alive
                But you're missing the point that resisting arrest isn't punishable by death in our justice system. That's why people are pissed.

                I mean, you sound like the pro gun 2nd amendment people trying to justify the lethal outcome with "he had a gun in his car."

                if the courts can't sentence you to death for it, the cops can't shoot you to death for it. But that's logical thought.

                emotional thought is "OMG he's black and that's why this is a tragedy!!" or "OMG he resisted/has priors/has a gun on him/etc. so it's ok"

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                • Sooz
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                  it's punishable everywhere.
                  By law you need to listen to police.
              • Vanilla Gorilla
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                #58
                Originally posted by everything bagel

                But you're missing the point that resisting arrest isn't punishable by death in our justice system. That's why people are pissed.

                I mean, you sound like the pro gun 2nd amendment people trying to justify the lethal outcome with "he had a gun in his car."

                if the courts can't sentence you to death for it, the cops can't shoot you to death for it. But that's logical thought.

                emotional thought is "OMG he's black and that's why this is a tragedy!!" or "OMG he resisted/has priors/has a gun on him/etc. so it's ok"
                But that is what the law is. If they escape in a vehicle or escape on foot potentially armed, the police are allowed to use deadly force. Its not a 2nd amendment thing, thats the way the law is in most countries. If he drives away at high speed and three blocks away loses control and kills a bunch of kids standing on the kerb .....thats why


                Even just resisting arrest, then reaching in to the car alone is enough of a reason to use deadly force, they dont know if he has a gun in there

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                • Meliai
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                  • Jun 2020
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                  #59
                  Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla

                  But that is what the law is. If they escape in a vehicle or escape on foot potentially armed, the police are allowed to use deadly force. Its not a 2nd amendment thing, thats the way the law is in most countries. If he drives away at high speed and three blocks away loses control and kills a bunch of kids standing on the kerb .....thats why


                  Even just resisting arrest, then reaching in to the car alone is enough of a reason to use deadly force, they dont know if he has a gun in there
                  Nah dude. I can see how trying to flee in a car could be perceived as a deadly threat to innocent bystanders, but you can't just flee on foot and be gunned down for it. There was a case in my state a few years ago where a black guy was shot in the back by police as he was running away from them and it was a pretty open and shut murder case.

                  Edit, nevermind I had to fact check myself because I wasn't sure if I was remembering it correctly. This case ended up being entirely mucked up.. it resulted in a mistrial due to a hung jury then the cop made a plea deal with the state that if he pleaded guilty to federal charges of a civil rights violation they would drop the murder charge.

                  Ugh. This is why people are angry

                  But either way my point still stands, shooting someone in the back as they're fleeing is not justifiable and warrants a murder charge, whatever the outcome of that charge may be
                  Last edited by Meliai; 04-15-2021, 12:30 PM.

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                  • Vanilla Gorilla
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                    #60
                    Originally posted by Meliai

                    Nah dude. I can see how trying to flee in a car could be perceived as a deadly threat to innocent bystanders, but you can't just flee on foot and be gunned down for it. There was a case in my state a few years ago where a black guy was shot in the back by police as he was running away from them and it was a pretty open and shut murder case.

                    Edit, nevermind I had to fact check myself because I wasn't sure if I was remembering it correctly. This case ended up being entirely mucked up.. it resulted in a mistrial due to a hung jury then the cop made a plea deal with the state that if he pleaded guilty to federal charges of a civil rights violation they would drop the murder charge.

                    Ugh. This is why people are angry

                    But either way my point still stands, shooting someone in the back as they're fleeing is not justifiable and warrants a murder charge, whatever the outcome of that charge may be

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