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    Huawei gets U.S. approvals to buy auto chips

    Biden is being lax on China... his buddy.
    U.S. officials have approved license applications worth hundreds of millions of dollars for China's blacklisted telecom company Huawei to buy chips for its growing auto component business, two people familiar with the matter said.

    #2
    The jury's out in my head (in case you haven't noticed.)

    From the article it would seem that China is being rewarded for playing ball with the US rather than us acquiescing to them.

    Still, they don't sound like the most reputable company. But maybe because they're falling in step a bit the door's being opened a crack.

    Still a little shady. Like, does a company that spies on us deserve a second chance? It would almost seem like what they're up to could be a great threat to us, and we're testing the waters.

    It's too bad the American people have been behaving so poorly (including those in high places.) The bulls lead the cattle, I suppose. When's the farmer gonna step in?

    It makes me sad to think about what could happen. War is so awful. Who wants that? Let's have fun instead, I say. But so many people want that.

    It's certainly treacherous. The whole world's gotta be on their tiptoes right now.

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      #3
      -- says nice Andy. Disgruntled me says Huawei bought us off and the powers that be give a fuck all about Democracy and may even throw a war just to reduce population.

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      • Beach Ball Bitch
        Beach Ball Bitch commented
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        Yes it leaves everyone’s head spinning. In my head, regardless - Fuck China and all the shit manufactured products that they have to offer. Don’t need it. Georgia politicians are really bad in playing ball with the chinese gov.

      #4
      It’s problematic. Huawei chips are a legit national security concern, and the global ship shortage is going to be an economic headwind without it.

      if It’s used in consumer products it is a different level of risk than if it’s used in building 5G networks, which are critical infrastructure targets. We shouldn’t be using them there either, but I don’t see a good solution considering the chip shortage other than possibly nationalizing chip manufacturing.

      We should consider it. Silicon is going to be the 21st centuries gunpowder.

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        #5
        It's Cylon technology brought to reality. Imagine if an enemy was able to broadcast a comment that simply shuts vehicles off from thousands of miles away. Even if it only affected 20% of the vehicles presently on the road in a direct manner, it would cause major traffic disruptions in the most densely populated cities.

        With American consumers focused on owning the newest car they can possibly finance, even ugly nightmares like the Aztek and the 1980 Seville, it's a sure bet it will be more than 20%. Also, larger commercial vehicles will be disabled as well. If this is done strategically it could cause a wave of economic and supply failures across the US and virtually shut the nation down.

        Without a shot being fired.

        And this is just vehicles. Traffic control devices may also fall victim as well as utility providers and distribution centers. We could see people literally starving in the streets, rich and poor, because our "just in time" methodology is a massive house of cards.

        Of course nobody has sympathy for all those ugly Americans, so the smug retorts will be legendary. But it won't last long because those countries are eager to adopt the same technology. The attack on the US will be a demonstration of resolve and will launch the planet into a decades-long economic nightmare. We have placed far too much importance on money and now it's primed for a failure that will fuck us by the billions.

        Learn how to make soap folks!

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          #6
          This is why we need to invest in space exploitation/mining.

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            #7
            Originally posted by WritersPanic View Post
            It's Cylon technology brought to reality. Imagine if an enemy was able to broadcast a comment that simply shuts vehicles off from thousands of miles away. Even if it only affected 20% of the vehicles presently on the road in a direct manner, it would cause major traffic disruptions in the most densely populated cities.

            With American consumers focused on owning the newest car they can possibly finance, even ugly nightmares like the Aztek and the 1980 Seville, it's a sure bet it will be more than 20%. Also, larger commercial vehicles will be disabled as well. If this is done strategically it could cause a wave of economic and supply failures across the US and virtually shut the nation down.

            Without a shot being fired.

            And this is just vehicles. Traffic control devices may also fall victim as well as utility providers and distribution centers. We could see people literally starving in the streets, rich and poor, because our "just in time" methodology is a massive house of cards.

            Of course nobody has sympathy for all those ugly Americans, so the smug retorts will be legendary. But it won't last long because those countries are eager to adopt the same technology. The attack on the US will be a demonstration of resolve and will launch the planet into a decades-long economic nightmare. We have placed far too much importance on money and now it's primed for a failure that will fuck us by the billions.

            Learn how to make soap folks!
            Happily China depends on our money, and there are some people in our societies who are aware of such risks and vocal about them. So if these dubious options are really a thing we simply would put a serious hold on business with China. And sanction the shit out of them of course. We're desperate enough to give them the upper hand in this chip industry, but not if they would really pull such crazy shit of course.
            Even though there are a lot of ignorant people in our societies, they're not the only ones.

            Big problem that already exists with such tech are of course spying and data theft. But if they gonna shut down vehicles or other stuff that can't and will not be tolerated.

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              #8
              Originally posted by Din Djarin View Post

              Happily China depends on our money, and there are some people in our societies who are aware of such risks and vocal about them. So if these dubious options are really a thing we simply would put a serious hold on business with China. And sanction the shit out of them of course. We're desperate enough to give them the upper hand in this chip industry, but not if they would really pull such crazy shit of course.
              Even though there are a lot of ignorant people in our societies, they're not the only ones.

              Big problem that already exists with such tech are of course spying and data theft. But if they gonna shut down vehicles or other stuff that can't and will not be tolerated.
              China is stockpiling gold by the ton so they can remaster the global economies. Being able the flip a switch and demobilize the US would be a fantastic power play. Some of the peaceful protests where blocking highways occurred showed just how weak US law enforcement can be and how fast store shelves run bare when the roads are compromised. We're fast approaching the point where China won't need US money or resources (except coal maybe).

              And, why in the hell is China interested in Mars? Is there something on Mars nobody is talking about? A vast resource maybe?

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              • SpaceMan
                SpaceMan commented
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                theyll have more tons soon....these " infrastructure " bills include mandates for electric cars ...and guess where the batteries are built?,...also guess which country is pre-approved to supply electric vehicle charging stations nationwide ....

              • WritersPanic
                WritersPanic commented
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                They're building charging stations all over Georgia now. They're always sitting there empty as the rednecks drive by 6 feet above the ground "Rollin coal" to show off their 4x4 fossil fuel museum on wheels. Once in a while I see a Tesla go by, especially downtown. What I don't get is why we don't see any economical electric cars. Instead they all cost as much as a starter home or more. Adopting them at any practical scale will mean pricing them for the non-wealthy.

              #9
              Originally posted by WritersPanic View Post

              China is stockpiling gold by the ton so they can remaster the global economies. Being able the flip a switch and demobilize the US would be a fantastic power play. Some of the peaceful protests where blocking highways occurred showed just how weak US law enforcement can be and how fast store shelves run bare when the roads are compromised. We're fast approaching the point where China won't need US money or resources (except coal maybe).
              I definitely agree their economic and industrial position is gonna be a real problem for us. But they will still depend on international trade for a large part (maybe the US becomes a smaller market for them, but they are not the only meaningful trade partner in a long shot)
              Seems what is really really important is that the international community works together in regards to being able to counter China on several aspects (economically, military, on moral/social issues etc.)


              And, why in the hell is China interested in Mars? Is there something on Mars nobody is talking about? A vast resource maybe?
              For all the same reasons the US and EU are.

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                #10
                Originally posted by Din Djarin View Post

                I definitely agree their economic and industrial position is gonna be a real problem for us. But they will still depend on international trade for a large part (maybe the US becomes a smaller market for them, but they are not the only meaningful trade partner in a long shot)
                Seems what is really really important is that the international community works together in regards to being able to counter China on several aspects (economically, military, on moral/social issues etc.)




                For all the same reasons the US and EU are.
                I don't know sometimes. Since Viking the US has supposedly been looking for signs of life or at least former life. Why? It's a barren, dead rock now with no shield from punishing radiation. So unless they find a vein of Uranium the size of California, what use is it? Unless the goal is really to prove that global religion is completely wrong and that God doesn't exist, why waste time searching for long lost microbes?

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                  #11
                  The mining and what not for materials for the battery operated cars is really bad for the environment, not to mention tp when those batteries no longer work and the contamination to the ground they will cause when buried

                  natural gas is the way to go if you want clean energy.

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                    #12
                    I got some natural gas. It's a side product when you love potato chips more than auto chips..

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                      #13
                      I imagine those Chips will be used in this new stupid project they are bringing about. Electric self driving Toronto transit buses. They can shut down our transit.


                      meet Olli 2.0 useless.
                      It can seat eight, is wheelchair-accessible and provides audio and visual announcements — and it's totally autonomous. Toronto, meet Olli 2.0.
                      Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 08-31-2021, 08:51 PM.

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                      • SpaceMan
                        SpaceMan commented
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                        0.5 inches of snow and a 1% grade will be its downfall


                        not to mention the exponential cold temperature effect on deep cycle or lithium based batteries

                        complete waste of tax dollars

                      #14
                      SpaceMan good point, I was looking at the clearance on the road to the bottom of the vehicle, Lol. And those little wheels... that product comes out of the Southwest where it has been tried and tested in the Silicon Valley. Lol. It won’t survive here, but I guess this is yet another good way to waste our tax money in the name of Fake climate change.

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                      • SpaceMan
                        SpaceMan commented
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                        a few of the potholes here would jam up that thing,,,it looks like they took a scissor lift and put windows on it

                      #15
                      Also China owns 51 percent of the worlds lithium mines... china also owns 80 % of cobalt yet only 1percent of cobalt comes out of China. .... owns 8 of the 14 cobalt mines, it also dominates in the processing of raw cobalt. And let’s not consider that this mining uses up 65% of the fresh water in an area and farmers find they have to look for other sources to water their crops. It is also not recyclable...

                      these libs have sold off the worlds mineral rights to China, brilliant huh! We don’t get mineral rights in Canada... China gets it as our government sells it off.

                      yet this mining kill farm land and fish... food won’t matter so long as China gets to make money. We can all die of starvation. Who cares, we will have electric cars. Lol
                      Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 08-31-2021, 10:50 PM.

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