The Common People.

[Dax]

So how do we, you and I, the common people make a difference? Alone we have as much chance as a budgie has flying thru a hurricane. Democrats ... Republicans, name any other party of your choice are in it to win it. There isn't a politician alive who gives a flying fuck about you and I. Men and women enter politics for one reason and one reason alone ... "How much money can I make while I'm in office?"

It costs an arm and a leg in terms of dollars to run for office in the USA. So where do these dudes and their ladies can the bucks from? Donations? No. Family fortunes? I don't think so.

So who has the wherewithall to sponsure these people?

Let's see. Maybe the gun lobby. Or perhaps Big Pharma. Could it perhaps be The Armaments Industry?

Big Pharma makes about $50 million a day. The armaments industry runs into the billions per month.

Only way is for us the common people to rise up and take our country back.

How? Fucked if I know.

But there must be a way.

Tell me how and I'll be in the front of the march.

[Din Djarin]

Organise, like american commoners used to. Fuck the two party system. If enough people have lost faith in it (which seems the case) they could and should leave it behind and strive for improvement and demand change.
Instead a significant amount of peeps get sucked in the polarisation and pick a side (ensuring the status quo) or get too apathic to actively rally behind a cause, or even vote.
Seems to me if every american citizen who lost faith in politics would vote 3rd party an ignorable message would be sent. Not THE solution, but could be the kickstart for constructive change

[Din Djarin]

Lol i of course ment UNignorable!!

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Posts like that sound like you want to be American

[WritersPanic]

If only we could get members of both parties to treat politicians in both parties like the worthless hacks they have become. I think too many people like being polarized and hence, easily manipulated.

[Undies]

Men and women enter politics for one reason and one reason alone ... "How much money can I make while I'm in office?"

At the higher levels, yeah. At the local level, most of the time it's more along the lines of "I'm too old for high school sports now, what else can I do to keep telling myself I'm special?"

[Undies]

If enough people have lost faith in it (which seems the case)

It may seem that way on the internet, but in real life 90% of the population gets really mad at you if you don't buy into the two party system 100%.

[Din Djarin]

I also take issue with that generalizing statement.

Besides, if one has less til no scrupules and want to make money is going into politics really the best option?
Yes, many politicians are too biased or affiliated with a lobby or political side to really be in it for the common good. And if not at point of entering politics, many do become like that later. Or they get bought or indeed too attached to their civil servant job.
But I also think there are still many politicians and government officials that do try to focus on the common good. It's often a boring, tedious and unrewarding job, reading lots of boring stuff and still have to compromise in the end.

[Din Djarin]

It may seem that way on the internet, but in real life 90% of the population gets really mad at you if you don't buy into the two party system 100%.

Because they affiliated themselves with a side, and the other side can't win. It's almost like a sports game..

[6-eyed]

Only way is for us the common people to rise up and take our country back.

How? Fucked if I know.

But there must be a way.

Tell me how and I'll be in the front of the march.

An idea:

Stop fighting with each other, and start uniting to against the system and the ruling class. Because if we get along, they know we'll all go against them.

For example some are angry with their neighbors for driving an SUV, but have no problem with the same ruling class driving personal planes and private yachts.

[Din Djarin]

An idea:

Stop fighting with each other, and start uniting to against the system and the ruling class. Because if we get along, they know we'll all go against them.

For example some are angry with their neighbors for driving an SUV, but have no problem with the same ruling class driving personal planes and private yachts.

Doesn't this include stopping with stigmatising the group with an opposite inclanation on a lot of matters than you, and not feeding into polarisation? You know: practice what you preach and all

[6-eyed]

Doesn't this include stopping with stigmatising the group with an opposite inclanation on a lot of matters than you, and not feeding into polarisation? You know: practice what you preach and all

It’d be great if we could unify with such people, yet they keep buying into woke identity politics that are designed to be divisive. So it’s easier to call them out on their ideological fallacies until they realize they’ve been duped.

Leftists were heading in the correct direction during the occupy Wall Street movement. It was great seeing people from all sides uniting against the corporate class. That is, until the elites interjected woke identity politics to divide us all once again.



Coincidence? I think not.

[Din Djarin]

It’d be great if we could unify with such people, yet they keep buying into woke identity politics that are designed to be divisive. So it’s easier to call them out on their ideological fallacies until they realize they’ve been duped.

Leftists were heading in the correct direction during the occupy Wall Street movement. It was great seeing people from all sides uniting against the corporate class. That is, until the elites interjected woke identity politics to divide us all once again.



Coincidence? I think not.

You should be able to acknowledge you're grossly generalizing here. Otherwise you're stereotyping the left by projecting the behavior of a minority on the moderate majority (which you always do), which is what stigmatising and polarisation entails.
So either you're behaving entirely different irl than in topical convos on here, or you're undeniably a part of the problem and not of the solution.

[Din Djarin]

6-eyed You're only affirming what I said about you there, hope that was a conscious effort on your part :P

So, everything woke is bad and shouldn't be met in any way, and whites are marginalized when they aim to hire a person with different ethnicity on 1 position because there's a lack of diversity in that company... Do you see how you disqualify yourself there from being a constructive and sensible member in societies current political landscape? I think so

[6-eyed]

When my convo partners get triggered and lash out in such animosity over any opposing points of view, they’re not the moderate majority you claim they are.

Hiring for the sake of diversity over quality is an extremist position. Not a moderate one. Judge a person by the content of their character. Not the color of their skin.

[Coldwater]

6-eyed

Hiring for the sake of diversity, are you serious?

I've worked in a number of industries, and I can assure you that at least 20% of the current workforce could be easily replaced by unqualified blacks (yes, I said unqualified blacks) even though there are plenty of qualified ones (I'd like to believe I'm included in that category) and you wouldn't see any drop-off in quality

The unqualified blacks wouldn't fuck things up any more or less than the so-called qualified whites.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Go back even as far as ancient egypt and the poor never "eat the rich" though.

Theres always some kind of stick or carrot to distract them from targeting who the real enemy is

Even today, instead of protesting, going around ransacking rich neighbourhoods would accomplish more

[mallyboppa]

[WritersPanic]

Music for the occasion!

[WritersPanic]

Go back even as far as ancient egypt and the poor never "eat the rich" though.

Theres always some kind of stick or carrot to distract them from targeting who the real enemy is

Even today, instead of protesting, going around ransacking rich neighbourhoods would accomplish more

Except that ransacking rich neighborhoods will not be as easy as some folks think. Rich people can afford guns, guards, lawyers, private investigators and caviar. If a hundred "protesters" manage to push into a gated community like some of the palm tree lined fortresses I've seen in Florida I'd bet at least 20 leave in an ambulance.

Rich people are accomplished savages. They got where they are by ruining their competition and squeezing every nickel out of a customer. If you so much as scratch the paint on their Porsche, they'll turn into a homicidal maniac before your eyes.

[Din Djarin]

6-eyed

When my convo partners get triggered and lash out in such animosity over any opposing points of view, they’re not the moderate majority you claim they are.

Hiring for the sake of diversity over quality is an extremist position. Not a moderate one. Judge a person by the content of their character. Not the color of their skin.

1) You equate everyone left leaning on HF with eachother and even more sad, with me. That's one sign you're nonsensically generalising as usual.
Besides, you went in so charged and nonsensically in topical debates on HF most of the time no one could blame your convo partners there for handling you as a loudmouth kid agitating against anything leftist. Please keep it real, mind you..
2) Having a preference as a company for a diff ethnicity on a job position because the majority is and has always been white in that company is not extremist. Not saying its good btw, I'm saying that maintaining that whites are being marginalised and defending that with the BBC example is hilariously stupid and renders the person doing it just as 'tarded' as any libtard. So my points still stand. While yours are unfortunately hardly worth countering..