Plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer foiled

[Rev J]

This is kind of alarming:

https://americanindependent.com/extremists-charged-in-plot-to-kidnap-governor-after-trump-urged-liberate-michigan-gretchen-whitmer/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/delaware-suspect-whitmer-plot-pardoned-year-73527770

https://www.whsv.com/2020/10/08/6-people-charged-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-whitmer/

This is the type of thing we think only happens in other countries.

An idiot once Tweeted "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!"

C/S,
Rev J

[eggsprog]

The FBI has been saying for years that right-wing extremist groups are the biggest domestic terror threat in the US.

These people were allowed to occupy the legislature (while heavily armed), and were cheered on by the president. It isn't surprising that they took it further after facing absolutely no consequences for what in any other western country would be absolutely inexcusable behaviour resulting in criminal charges.

[Rev J]

Exactly. This is shit that we think only goes on in other countries.

Kinda makes ANTIFA look like kids throwing rocks in a school yard. The Trump Administration also cut funding to organizations dedicated to getting people out of right wing groups.

C/S,
Rev J

[Beach Ball Bitch]

They were not trump supporters. They are anti government actually and anti trump. Anarchists. This is all madness. Whither does need to answer for shit though.

[eggsprog]

Beach Ball Bitch This is a photo from the steps of the Michigan state legislature.

[eggsprog]

Also, here is the facebook page for one of the groups that organized the "protest":
https://m.facebook.com/pg/michiganco...alition/posts/

Lots of pro-Trump content.

Do you just make this stuff up off of the top of your head or are you purposefully spreading misinformation?

[Rev J]

The thing is they aren't anarchists they are "Constitutionalists". They believe that the current government is illegal by original constitutional guidelines and only believe in it up to the first 10 amendments. That isn't anarchist or left wing that is hard right almost an extreme form of libertarianism. Or more accurately a more militant wing of the Patriot Movement.

They are nowhere near anarchists. As a matter of fact I heard about this from an Anarchist who was condemning it.

I'm sure that she will pull a reason that Whitmer has to answer for things out of her ass.

C/S,
Rev J

[neonspectraltoast]

Our eyes are fake news.

[Rev J]

Beach Ball Bitch This is a photo from the steps of the Michigan state legislature.

What's funny about this picture is if you look at most of the men wearing "Tac Vests" (I call it "Fetish Gear for Ammosexuals) they don't have the chest plates making them useless in any type battle situation since it isn't bulletproof. So they're pretty much half stepping.

C/S,
Rev J

[Beach Ball Bitch]

Old old news. Check out their videos. People were once pro Obama before the shit he did. They were all definitely anarchists and anti government. Anti trump.

[Rev J]

You obviously don't read so well. The people arrested are part of the "Patriot Movement". "Anti Government" does not mean "Anarchist".

From the first article:

At least one of the alleged conspirators reportedly used Trump's rhetoric that Democrats wanted to repeal the Second Amendment and disarm the public.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/michigan-militia-wolverine-watchmen-gretchen-whitmer/5924615002/

State governments, they believed, were violating the U.S. Constitution. They singled out Michigan and Whitmer. They talked about "murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor." They planned to recruit others and spread their message.

Then, they met up with members of a militia group, which took the conversations to another level.


The Wolverine Watchmen was founded by Pete Musico, 42, and Joseph Morrison, 26, who lived together in Munith, Michigan, and are now each charged — among others — with a threat of terrorism, gang membership, providing material support for terrorist acts, and possession of a firearm in the commission of a felony.

Throughout the summer, law enforcement said, the combined group decided they needed firearms and tactical training and homemade bombs to blow up police vehicles and 200 men to storm the Capitol and take hostages. They also discussed a shooting at the governor’s vacation home.

The militia groups, she said, tend to support Second Amendment rights, limited government and a strict — or literal — interpretation of the Constitution. They tend to be somewhat secretive, inwardly focused, and not much of a threat.

This is extreme right wing thought. They also talk about starting a second civil war.

I take the word of people who study extremists for a living before I take your word for anything.

What is this "Shit" that Obama did that you are alluding too? I'm guessing that you will make an outlandish statement with nothing to back it up.

Also what does Whitmer have to "Answer For"? Again I'm guessing that you have nothing but an outlandish statement that you will pull out of your ass That won't stand up to scrutiny.

C/S,
Rev J

[tumbling.dice]

At least our law enforcement is still taking this seriously and not listening to the Trump administration.

[Rev J]

Old old news. Check out their videos. People were once pro Obama before the shit he did. They were all definitely anarchists and anti government. Anti trump.

Here's another interesting quote about one of the men involved in the plot:



Fox, who was described as one of the leaders, was living in the basement of a vacuum shop in Grand Rapids. The owner said Fox was opposed to wearing a mask during the pandemic and kept firearms and ammunition at the store.

“He was anti-police, anti-government,” Brian Titus told WOOD-TV. “He was afraid if he didn’t stand up for the Second Amendment and his rights that the country is going to go communism and socialism.”



“The group talked about creating a society that followed the U.S. Bill of Rights and where they could be self-sufficient,” the FBI affidavit said. “They discussed different ways of achieving this goal from peaceful endeavors to violent actions. ... Several members talked about murdering ‘tyrants’ or ‘taking’ a sitting governor.”

This is not "Anarchist". This is "Libertarian".

Rather than own this as a right wing attack and condemn it you tried shifting it onto the left and denying it.

Here's the article that was referenced:

https://www.whsv.com/2020/10/08/6-people-charged-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-whitmer/

C/S,
Rev J

[eggsprog]

Old old news. Check out their videos. People were once pro Obama before the shit he did. They were all definitely anarchists and anti government. Anti trump.

If they are anti Trump, then why is there a prominent Trump campaign sign in that photo, and why are the organizers still posting pro-Trump content on their social media?

[Rev J]

Then there's this:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/michigan-militia-dar-leaf-constitutional-sheriff-180828690.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_02

C/S,
Rev J