The Democratic Party strikes me as promoting what many minorities despise!

[Matthew Mussolini]

Yes, Trump of course lost, but he did do better with minorities than any GOP candidate in 60 years.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/04/despit...e-in-60-years/

There are a whole bunch of reasons for this that I won't get into, but I will mention that there are more minorities on average who are pro-life and adhere to a Biblical or Quranic Religion in America than white people according to tests and surveys on the issue. Minorities score higher per capita.

People promoting secularism, gay marriage, and abortion tend to be more on the left and are not on average minorities. God bless them, I see where they are coming from and God is hiding himself , so it seems like he isn't there, plus it seems like people from broken homes should have never been born sometimes, plus homosexuals get bullied and have hard lives, and don't choose to be gay. Plus lesbians are most endearing. So I try to see things from their point of view to understand both sides.

But I'm just saying, people that belong to Biblical or Quaranic faiths are going to be pro-life as well as against secularism and gay marriage, all of which the left is promoting and conservatives more on average taking a stand against it.

Not to mention, the founder of planned parenthood was openly racist, wanted countless African Americans sterilized, and to this day planned parenthood targets minorities and it is one of the reasons a disproportionate amount of abortions are black. In fact, in New York City, there are more black babies aborted than there are born.

Conservatives wanted to defund Planned Parenthood from it's founding and still do, and most of the minorities I've spoken with on the issue say abortion goes against their conscience. The biggest killer of black people is not violence, heart attack, drug over dose, or whatever first comes to mind.

The biggest killer of black people is abortion , and I don't see "Black Lives Matter" protesting their greatest enemy.

Also, minorities are as I said, scoring more higher as being "Spritual" and "Religious", where Caucasians on average are more secular (according to surveys), and those pushing secularism are usually more on the left. So , I think minorities are waking up and recognizing that the Democratic party is not upholding the virtues, faith, and morality they cherish.

Think about all the Hispanics and how devoted they are to "Our Lady of Guadalupe", how big their families are, how they pray before abortion clinics for an end to abortion. The faith they adhere to is also against gay marriage.

Those adhering to Islam , adhere to a faith that is against gay marriage and abortion as well. They also traditionally are very opposed to secularization of society , schools, and government. I just don't see how the left is really serving minorities or doing a good job representing them.

It looks like playing pretend and free handouts , while wiping a whole bunch of them out through abortion and eugenics, and then pissing on what they believe to be sacred. I'm not saying the Republican Party and Conservatives are doing a good job at accepting and helping minorities or welcoming them either, but I'm going to go with my friend and martyr Saint Malcom X , on this one: (he actually was killed shortly after saying this):

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[Matthew Mussolini]

I'm not saying most leftists or liberals have an evil agenda or anything. Just saying, as a general rule, the Democratic party is notorious for doing what goes against the conscience of the average minority. It just seems more deceptive and superficial than Conservatives.

I think there are a remnant of good people in both parties. Both political parties go against my conscience as a general rule.

We need an anointed Messiah to rule with authority , wisdom, and understanding of what is best for society, and a single party state that enforces all the virtues that are healthy and bans all that is not healthy.

However, the wisdom to know what is good and what should be banned, must come from a very blessed and anointed person, enlightened person, one who knows what is best, and demonstrates that he/she is worthy of following and obeying.

[everything bagel]

Asians are the fastest growing minority in the US and a lot of them come here to flee communism. Chinese and Vietnamese Americans, for example, tend to vote very conservative. They see the American left as wanting to go in the direction of what they just escaped and fiercely oppose it. Plus a lot of Asians settle on the west coast or in NYC, both liberal strongholds. And liberal policies seldom work in our favor.

Take Chesa Boudin, the democrat DA in San Francisco who is being recalled for, among other things, being too lenient on, or refusing to even prosecute, drug crimes and violent crimes committed by black people. Because a violent crime committed by a drug addict is a tragedy. The addict is the real victim here. Same when it comes to violent crime committed by black people. We can't hold black individuals accountable for the crimes they commit, because it's not their fault. It's white supremacy's fault. So these violent offenders are released with a slap on the wrist where they attack, assault, rob, and kill again.

The NYC "man" who stomped an old Filipina woman's head repeatedly on a sidewalk had recently been paroled from jail after murdering his own mother.

White liberals have made a deal with African Americans, and this deal comes at the expense of other minorities. Also, despite claims of the contrary, more and more Latinx Americans are voting conservative, because, again, despite claims to the contrary, they have assimilated into American culture. And the state with the most Latinx Americans is good ol' red af Texas. Minorities are starting to see through liberal bullshit.

It's going to be hard to get me to vote ever again when my choices are the person who will stab me in the front or the person who will stab me in the back.

[Matthew Mussolini]

Asians are the fastest growing minority in the US and a lot of them come here to flee communism. Chinese and Vietnamese Americans, for example, tend to vote very conservative. They see the American left as wanting to go in the direction of what they just escaped and fiercely oppose it. Plus a lot of Asians settle on the west coast or in NYC, both liberal strongholds. And liberal policies seldom work in our favor.

Take Chesa Boudin, the democrat DA in San Francisco who is being recalled for, among other things, being too lenient on, or refusing to even prosecute, drug crimes and violent crimes committed by black people. Because a violent crime committed by a drug addict is a tragedy. The addict is the real victim here. Same when it comes to violent crime committed by black people. We can't hold black individuals accountable for the crimes they commit, because it's not their fault. It's white supremacy's fault. So these violent offenders are released with a slap on the wrist where they attack, assault, rob, and kill again.

The NYC "man" who stomped an old Filipina woman's head repeatedly on a sidewalk had recently been paroled from jail after murdering his own mother.

White liberals have made a deal with African Americans, and this deal comes at the expense of other minorities. Also, despite claims of the contrary, more and more Latinx Americans are voting conservative, because, again, despite claims to the contrary, they have assimilated into American culture. And the state with the most Latinx Americans is good ol' red af Texas. Minorities are starting to see through liberal bullshit.

It's going to be hard to get me to vote ever again when my choices are the person who will stab me in the front or the person who will stab me in the back.

That's a very interesting take on it. I never actually thought to address the non-spiritual side that isn't about faith and morals. You did a better job than I would have on that one.

I do have quite a few Asian friends of the Hmong community and they have expressed some of the same concerns you mentioned.

Yeah...I didn't vote last election. I don't see a "good guy" or "bad guy". They both go against my conscience.

[neonspectraltoast]

[Audiogen]

According to the new Gallop Poll which I just happened to stumble upon due to a thread Tumbling.Dice started, Hispanics are going to church less than Whites, and Blacks are not attending to church significantly more.


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Church membership among Hispanic Americans in 2018-2020 was 37%, among the lowest for any major subgroup.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/...irst-time.aspx

[Undies]

According to the new Gallop Poll which I just happened to stumble upon due to a thread Tumbling.Dice started, Hispanics are going to church less than Whites, and Blacks are not attending to church significantly more.


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https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/...irst-time.aspx

i wonder what the correlation is between church membership and church attendance. i almost brought this up after dice's post, and forgot to do so.

i have to assume there is a direct correlation between the two, but i'm curious if membership is dropping a lot faster than attendance or if they are dropping at the same rate (ignoring covid shutdowns, obviously).

i know my mom is a member of her church, hell i might still be listed as a member of her church for all i know, but i'm honestly not sure how one actually becomes a church member, or what benefits come with that versus just attending the church services.

[Audiogen]

i wonder what the correlation is between church membership and church attendance. i almost brought this up after dice's post, and forgot to do so.

i have to assume there is a direct correlation between the two, but i'm curious if membership is dropping a lot faster than attendance or if they are dropping at the same rate (ignoring covid shutdowns, obviously).

i know my mom is a member of her church, hell i might still be listed as a member of her church for all i know, but i'm honestly not sure how one actually becomes a church member, or what benefits come with that versus just attending the church services.

If there is a distinction, that's an error on my part. I thought one could claim that they belong to a church or other place of worship solely by attendance.

[Undies]

If there is a distinction, that's an error on my part. I thought one could claim that they belong to a church or other place of worship solely by attendance.

well if the data is self reported, then they absolutely could claim that. but yeah, there is actually such a thing as a church membership. i know my mom's church actually puts out something like a high school yearbook every few years, where they have pictures of all the registered members, along with contact info i think.

they also have the envelopes. all members get a box of envelopes each year, that they're expected to put money in and return to the church each week. in a lot of ways, it would really make more sense to just go to church and not become a member.

of course, this is all based on my experience with one small town catholic church (and what i've heard about the other local churches near that same small town). so it's very possible that this is different in larger venues, or with other denominations.

[tumbling.dice]

...but i'm honestly not sure how one actually becomes a church member...

Well, according to The Reverend Jimmy Swaggart a man must confess that Jesus is Lord, while acknowledging in his heart that Christ must have full rule over his life. This confession of Christ as Lord assumes that it is Christ who will work and fulfill His own righteousness within man, as man is unable to attain righteousness of his own accord.

I'm not sure if he said this before or after he began philandering with prostitutes, however.

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[Matthew Mussolini]

According to the new Gallop Poll which I just happened to stumble upon due to a thread Tumbling.Dice started, Hispanics are going to church less than Whites, and Blacks are not attending to church significantly more.


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https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/...irst-time.aspx

I wasn't talking about Church attendance.

A lot of believers don't attend Church.

I was saying atheism is more common among white people on average.

[Audiogen]

I wasn't talking about Church attendance.

A lot of believers don't attend Church.

I was saying atheism is more common among white people on average.

Ok, well African Americans and Hispanics have higher abortion rates than whites, so I don't really follow the moral value argument you seem to be making or what minorities are waking up to.

[everything bagel]

That's a very interesting take on it. I never actually thought to address the non-spiritual side that isn't about faith and morals. You did a better job than I would have on that one.

I do have quite a few Asian friends of the Hmong community and they have expressed some of the same concerns you mentioned.

Yeah...I didn't vote last election. I don't see a "good guy" or "bad guy". They both go against my conscience.

If you want to talk about faith and spirituality, I don't have to tell you that neither side represents mine. If you're not of the Abrahamic religions, than America's religious morals are a moot point.