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    The problem with democracy

    Have you ever been that token smart person in a room full of idiots? This is the problem with democracy.

    It doesn’t matter if you are factually correct against all the idiots; they will overpower you, and drown out your voice. If the idiots disagree with your facts that are backed by science, historical documents, and video footage. Your statements will be steamrolled by their idiotic feelings. Thus they prevail over you.

    #2
    There is something to be said for bureaucratic governments like they have in France and Japan. Both countries are civilized places to live in.
    Watching Yes Minister / Yes Prime Minister, I for one frequently agreed with Sir Humphrey's pragmatism.

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      #3
      The problem with democracy as it stands in Western culture is that a small group of elites brainwash each side of its people to believe they are the token smart person, and cause them to blame someone other than the elite for everything that is wrong.

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        #4
        I believe these problems are along the lines of why Duce was a proponent of Fascism. Based on the doctrine of Fascism, which he insisted we read, there was a part that criticized democracies because the assumption was that when people are left to their own devices they become entrenched in ignoble pleasures. Or to put it another way, there is not really any imperative for people to embrace facts in a democracy.

        My thoughts in response to reading that were I would like to know how having unchecked power in a fascist regime would compel the leaders to embrace facts and/or reliably inform the populace?

        Logos is at a perpetual disadvantage to pathos regardless of political ideology because appealing to emotion is much more immediate than logic and reasoning. Think of all the steps you have to go through to form sound logic or science... For example, you have to state valid premises which lead to a conclusion to support an assertion and not commit any fallacies along the way. In science, you have to form a hypothesis, test the hypothesis, acknowledge the limitations of the test(s), etc.

        Appeals to emotion require a captivating or passionate speaker regardless of what they are saying.

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          #5
          It all depends on the state of the democracy wether it caters disproportionately to the idiots or not. No system is idiot or criminal proof. When the main problem of a nation are idiots or people with dubious intent crippling the system then the main problem is not democracy on itself, but that there are too many idiots and/or people with dubious intent with too many power/influcence. That can happen under any system.

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            #6
            Originally posted by 6-eyed View Post
            Have you ever been that token smart person in a room full of idiots?
            every day of my life.

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            • Jessica
              Jessica commented
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              Can confirm. He knows not to mow roses.

            #7
            Originally posted by 6-eyed View Post
            Have you ever been that token smart person in a room full of idiots? This is the problem with democracy.

            It doesn’t matter if you are factually correct against all the idiots; they will overpower you, and drown out your voice. If the idiots disagree with your facts that are backed by science, historical documents, and video footage. Your statements will be steamrolled by their idiotic feelings. Thus they prevail over you.
            Which is why we need an electoral college

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