Liberal fascism.

[neonspectraltoast]

(Sorry Matt.)

It sounds nice on the surface, but I've been on the receiving end. A lot.

First and foremost of my complaints is that there is to be no questioning of official scientific paradigms, not especially in health, where diet is concerned, but especially in physics and pharmacology.

There's this rule that if you have a liberal education, yours is the only respectable point of view. And you are wise.

If you were not wise, you wouldn't be financially fit.

Let's get to the lowdown, though: our, western, society is ass backwards.

Yes, there are its miracles and wonders, though they are all predicated on a society that wasn't only tolerant of the liberally educated.

And it's fine for most people, though they don't truly enjoy it.

The truth, though, is that there were oracles, buddhas, and extraterrestrials. But even Tibetan monks have lost sight of true reality.

I guess what I'm trying to define is a society completely backwards and pig-headed, where one is villainized for having an imagination.

I actually SAW an article yesterday that said humans are irrational BECAUSE they're imaginative.

Ok, so...to you, that seems sensible. Which elucidates how upside-down your world actually is, because imagination is the ONLY rational thing.

Outside-the-box thinkers are medicated to the point where our intellect simply disappears.

And you all elect a senile person as President and virtue signal via masks against a virus designed to curb the population. And 9/10 people are atheists who don't believe in miracles, or angels, or buddhas.

And liberalism dictates: that's sensible.

It ISN'T.

[neonspectraltoast]

And, like, these are fighting words.

You simply shall not question those who an institution gave a "diploma" to. They know. They are right.

No, actually they're the shadiest, dimmest people, by and large.

[Amerijuanican]

That which you have written here, is basically the same conclusions I've come to over my life.

[Din Djarin]

Seems an overly sarcastic conclusion, not ment to be taken rigidly literally? I mean, we can see just as many examples in our society were imagination is valued a lot, and no not just because its predicates on other stuff in some way (although I can see where you are coming from with that).
Also, this not questioning of institutions, or of people part of it/representing them is just plain silly. Happens all the time, by all kinds of people and is encouraged and valued often (you just have to do it sensibly :P )

[neonspectraltoast]

...if by "sensibly" you mean agreeing to the terms set forth by the status quo.

Which are all wrong. Everybody is simply wrong, in a big way.

And the Earth will take it all back.

[Din Djarin]

No... That would obviously indicate I would go along with what you say, which I clearly did not (entirely). I just mean sensibly as defined by the dictionary :P

[neonspectraltoast]

Problem is, even if you are sensible, if you introduce new ideas you're treated like a heretic.

[Din Djarin]

Far from always

[Pressed_Rat]

Woke liberalism is the new fascism (or communism... either way) -- both are essentially the same, and result in the same outcome, just dressed up differently.

The difference between the "woke" left and the "fascist" right is that the woke left has the backing of multi-billion dollar corporations, whereas white nationalism is more or less a figment of the Left's imagination.

I mean, where are all these racist, fascist white nationalists I keep hearing about?? Were they the ones who spent last summer burning down cities??

[Din Djarin]

Woke liberalism is the new fascism (or communism... either way) -- both are essentially the same, and result in the same outcome, just dressed up differently.

The difference between the "woke" left and the "fascist" right is that the woke left has the backing of multi-billion dollar corporations, whereas white nationalism is more or less a figment of the Left's imagination.

I mean, where are all these racist, fascist white nationalists I keep hearing about?? Were they the ones who spent last summer burning down cities??

Even if white nationalism would be marginal today, it used to be rampant and obvious, so how can it be predominantly a figment of the lefts imagination? They would, at the worst, be wrongly seeing a threat in something that used to be a real threat. Of course you might think US security/intellgience agencies are leftists tools then, when they declare extreme right wing white nationalists as one of the biggest terrorist threats for your country?

I would also make the obvious distinction that just because they both are primary associated with opressive regimes fascism and communism can hardly be equated with eachother. That's basically nonsensical. Unless of course you try to link woke liberalism to communism through american socialists (sometimes calling themselves Marxists). But even when those extreme socialists aim for something entirely anticapitalistic they don't aim for or advocate a communist or oppressive dictatorship.

Stuff like trying to get the N word out of a Tom Sawyer book and a big corporation going against hate speech by deleting shit is of course concerning but it hardly equates with Hitlers or Mussolini's fascism, not even in intent. But yes, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions. But no, good intentions do not equate with hell
Back in the blissful non PC times there were all kinds of other social no no's and limitations you would just not do.

[Pressed_Rat]

Even if white nationalism would be marginal today, it used to be rampant and obvious, so how can it be predominantly a figment of the lefts imagination? They would, at the worst, be wrongly seeing a threat in something that used to be a real threat. Of course you might think US security/intellgience agencies are leftists tools then, when they declare extreme right wing white nationalists as one of the biggest terrorist threats for your country?

I would also make the obvious distinction that just because they both are primary associated with opressive regimes fascism and communism can hardly be equated with eachother. That's basically nonsensical. Unless of course you try to link woke liberalism to communism through american socialists (sometimes calling themselves Marxists). But even when those extreme socialists aim for something entirely anticapitalistic they don't aim for or advocate a communist or oppressive dictatorship.

Stuff like trying to get the N word out of a Tom Sawyer book and a big corporation going against hate speech by deleting shit is of course concerning but it hardly equates with Hitlers or Mussolini's fascism, not even in intent. But yes, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions. But no, good intentions do not equate with hell
Back in the blissful non PC times there were all kinds of other social no no's and limitations you would just not do.

1) It is a figment of the Left's imagination that anyone who does not agree with them is a bigoted white supremacist, when many of these trust fund ANTIFA punks are as white and privileged as it comes.

2) There have always been two definitions for socialism and communism. One for the common people (the dupes) at the bottom, and one for the elite at the top who funded communism from its inception as the dialectical false opposition to capitalism. For the elite, it has always been about control via monopoly power and control over finance. The rich and powerful few merely use the naive, idealistic ones at the bottom, who laughably believe they're fighting for equality and the working man or whatever, to foment the necessary destabilization in society for the power elite to take complete control over a population.

3) Totalitarianism has to start somewhere, and it starts with the censorship of alternative viewpoints. We might not be living in Nazi Germany just yet, but it is fast heading in that direction, and people who defend these things are only helping to build their own proverbial prison cells.

The time to wake up is now, and fast!!

[neonspectraltoast]

And the new Stalin is lil Nas X. In his words: I just like dick. Nothing deep about it.

Shallowness of thought is the guiding light of liberal fascism/communism/whatever you want to call it.

We'll do Matt a solid and call it communism, since it's godless atheism. Though it is a vapidtocracy, where the cheaper and more ideologically coarse you are, the higher you climb the social ladder, the more "money" you acquire.

And its purveyors say, "We have no use for thought, unless the thinker is widely accredited (despite whatever absence of broken ground.)

Accept the forms that be, and only the forms that be, while making headway with perversion and child molestation.

That's neo-millenial-liberalism in a nutshell.

[Din Djarin]

1) It is a figment of the Left's imagination that anyone who does not agree with them is a bigoted white supremacist, when many of these trust fund ANTIFA punks are as white and privileged as it comes.

2) There have always been two definitions for socialism and communism. One for the common people (the dupes) at the bottom, and one for the elite at the top who funded communism from its inception as the dialectical false opposition to capitalism. For the elite, it has always been about control via monopoly power and control over finance. The rich and powerful few merely use the naive, idealistic ones at the bottom, who laughably believe they're fighting for equality and the working man or whatever, to foment the necessary destabilization in society for the power elite to take complete control over a population.

3) Totalitarianism has to start somewhere, and it starts with the censorship of alternative viewpoints. We might not be living in Nazi Germany just yet, but it is fast heading in that direction, and people who defend these things are only helping to build their own proverbial prison cells.

The time to wake up is now, and fast!!

The time to be alert on fascistic elements or infringements on free speech is not just now. It is just like being sure our other achievements incl gay and femininst right for example an ongoing thing. But in regards to totalitarianism or the citizens being pushed over by big government or big corporations, or being enslaved by consumerism that is all not caused by woke liberalism is it.

Matt... You have been preaching the downfall of the US for over 15 years. It used to be Bush and 9/11 etc. now it is woke liberalism apparently. But although i agree the woke culture has some dubious aspects with this cancel culture shit etc. its also a bit ludicrous to act it is the biggest problem the US has, or the biggest threat to US society.

[neonspectraltoast]

The problem is too huge. Only a miracle can alter our course. People are too blind -- too brainwashed.

And it's sad that we've forsaken the spirit in the here and now. Not only will this be our undoing, but our lives are pale comparisons of what they could be.

The struggle goes on.

[Pressed_Rat]

The time to be alert on fascistic elements or infringements on free speech is not just now. It is just like being sure our other achievements incl gay and femininst right for example an ongoing thing. But in regards to totalitarianism or the citizens being pushed over by big government or big corporations, or being enslaved by consumerism that is all not caused by woke liberalism is it.

Matt... You have been preaching the downfall of the US for over 15 years. It used to be Bush and 9/11 etc. now it is woke liberalism apparently. But although i agree the woke culture has some dubious aspects with this cancel culture shit etc. its also a bit ludicrous to act it is the biggest problem the US has, or the biggest threat to US society.

Of course it is "not just now", but now we are at a crossroads. Now marks a pivotal time in history. Either people stand up and say enough is enough, or it will just be more and more insanity until things finally buckle and descend into complete chaos. That is coming. The precedent of mandatory vaccinations sets a crucial tipping point for this country and the future of its people.

And thanks for taking notice of the fact that my views have pretty much been consistent for the majority of time I have been posting online, but it is the same shit today as it was then. Woke liberalism is merely part of the same hydra head that brought us 9/11 and the neocon wars which followed. The elite control both sides of this current culture war. The 'woke' side, and the 'patriot'/Trump side. I take neither side.

[Jessica]

1) It is a figment of the Left's* imagination that anyone who does not agree with them is a bigoted white supremacist,

*Extreme left

And it is a figment of the extreme Right's imagination that everyone who disagrees with them is bent on eradicating gender and killing babies
As I keep saying, left and right politics would do best uniting and working together. It's only that the media is amplifying both of the nutcase minorities that leaves us stuck in this endless battle.


I'm also curious if you really think the "woke left" have corporations on their side? I think it's just being fashionable, to make money. They're not on anyone's side but the side that makes the most profit.

[neonspectraltoast]

Really wish I hadn't started this thread. It isn't a good conveyance of what I'm trying to say. I associate it with liberals 'cause that's who I've always been around, but it's conservatives too.

And I don't know if I can explain. Psychiatry is bordering on barbaric (not that it hasn't always, if you think about it) but it still is. And I could try and explain that you have to honestly care about people in order to heal them, but...that's poppycock, right? And...why is psychiatry barbaric?

And we're all catering to this sensitive bogeyman... I guess it's been said a hundred different ways that some people take offense at everything. And we're all catering to this conformist mindset, we really are. It seems good on the surface, but it's quite deceptive and dishonest. We're basically saying, "People who refuse to be understanding are understanding." That's essentially how I see it.

So much is completely backwards. But it's not a liberal agenda, per se. It's all been said to death, though. No need complicating things; I'm just not gonna worry. I'm just gonna be a fancy nut and everyone can marvel at the fact that I feel good about life even when they're casting aspersions on me. Cause I've crossed the borderline where I'm so barely aware of it anymore.

I mean, aren't you guys aware of the fact that you'll go outside (maybe this is just me) and people will try to make you frightened??? What's up with that???

That I'd like an answer to, because it can't just be true for me. People habitually try to intimidate each other. If a guy is outside working on his car and his stranger neighbor comes out, more likely than not, there's unspoken hostility. Or maybe it's just me, because I can be so bold and upbeat... Yeah, I think I'm the cats meow. Doesn't mean I don't think anybody else isn't the cat's meow.

Nevermind. la de da neon speaking