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    Why Ukraine might invade Russia!!!

    Just kidding obviously.

    But if Russia invaded Ukraine, the world war 3 that could follow could lead to a counter attack , involving so many nations sweeping across and through the Holy Land Ukraine with that incredibly mighty Ukrainian forces, to fight another Stalingrad or successfully occupy or incinerate Moscow!

    Not going to happen of course! By Stalingrad I just meant another huge bloody battle between Russia and invaders from the west. But Russia will be in deep trouble if they invade Ukraine!

    My main reason for starting this thread is I'm shocked that Putin feels the fall of the Soviet Union is the greatest tragedy to afflict the 20th century.

    That simply doesn't make sense, because what Putin stands for these days, is completely the opposite of what the Soviet Union was pushing, enforcing, and standing for.

    Putin sometimes speaks like a fanatic Religious leader against "moral depravity and decadence", puts the Church and State in the same bed, zealously promotes Christian faith and morals, and condemns the errors of the Soviet Union, almost more than any other powerful first-world politician I can think of...

    So, how could he be stating the collapse of the Soviet Union, which his actions and words condemn, (more than other leaders) is a bad thing for the world?

    I mean, yes, he would like control of more of Eastern Europe. That makes sense , even if it isn't good or morally sound. But he stands for the opposite of what the Soviet Union stood for and promoted, and Soviets even outlawed what he is doing and saying.

    If Putin were saying some of what he says these days, in the Soviet Union, or trying to put government and Church in the same bed like he does, Soviets would have at one time put him in a gulag or had him executed.


    He should be praising the collapse of the Soviet Union. Instead he's apparently claiming it is one of the worst tragedies of modern times!

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    I have to admit, I really dont care

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        You know Putin is a dishonest and opportunistic ruler, right? He's not in it for the people of Russia and he's playing them with those words. The main thing he likes about the Soviet Union is how awesome it is for a dictator, hence he is glorifying it. You can not take his words on that at face value.

        He also knows he can not only never win a war with the west but it is not worth it to even try to invade Ukraine. Not worth the cost and hassle. It was worth it to meddle in the Ukrainian civil war secretly, supporting the pro russian rebels, but seems not so much anymore lol.

        So both the west and Russia are playing a bit of cold war bluf poker, feeling obligated to add military presence at the borders, but no side wants it to escalate in all out warfare.

        He does have a point about the EU annexing east european countries at expense of the former buffer zone between the early EU and the former Soviet Union. Not only does it justify russian wariness and irritation but even worse, it is imo not even good for the EU itself. It does not need to add countries like Hungary, Romania or Bulgaria as long as they're basically incompatible with EU values and standards and have such a high level of corruption etc.

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          Originally posted by Din Djarin View Post
          You know Putin is a dishonest and opportunistic ruler, right? He's not in it for the people of Russia and he's playing them with those words. The main thing he likes about the Soviet Union is how awesome it is for a dictator, hence he is glorifying it. You can not take his words on that at face value.

          He also knows he can not only never win a war with the west but it is not worth it to even try to invade Ukraine. Not worth the cost and hassle. It was worth it to meddle in the Ukrainian civil war secretly, supporting the pro russian rebels, but seems not so much anymore lol.

          So both the west and Russia are playing a bit of cold war bluf poker, feeling obligated to add military presence at the borders, but no side wants it to escalate in all out warfare.

          He does have a point about the EU annexing east european countries at expense of the former buffer zone between the early EU and the former Soviet Union. Not only does it justify russian wariness and irritation but even worse, it is imo not even good for the EU itself. It does not need to add countries like Hungary, Romania or Bulgaria as long as they're basically incompatible with EU values and standards and have such a high level of corruption etc.
          Great information. Thanks!

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            Originally posted by Pete's Draggun View Post
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            Why thank you kind sir!

            At least someone cares!

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              #7
              Why can't one of the politicians who visit and grovel in front of Putin simply ask him a simple question:

              "Are you going to invade the Ukraine now or at any time in the forseeable future."
              "The embers of our past lives lie smouldering within us awaiting the winds of remembrance to fan them in flames of reality." Dax.

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