...The Pursuit of Happiness

[tumbling.dice]

To my knowledge no other founding document mentions this. Why are we fucking it up so bad? It's so simple, leave people alone and do as you please.

[Din Djarin]

Too much people and conflicting perceptions of how to pursue happiness I guess.

[Undies]

Apparently a lot of people's happiness depends on other people's unhappiness.

[Tropical Breeze]

If you are happy already and your "opposed" candidate wins the election, would that suddenly make you unhappy?

[Amerijuanican]

The angle of the dangle...

The Pursuit of Happiness- Cigarette Dangles ??

[eggsprog]

To my knowledge no other founding document mentions this. Why are we fucking it up so bad? It's so simple, leave people alone and do as you please.

But what about when your right to do something interferes with someone else's right to be left alone?

[tumbling.dice]

But what about when your right to do something interferes with someone else's right to be left alone?

Like what?

[eggsprog]

Like what?

Anything really - driving on the wrong side of the road, putting up a billboard sized photo of my dick on my front lawn. You know, normal stuff.

[tumbling.dice]

Anything really - driving on the wrong side of the road, putting up a billboard sized photo of my dick on my front lawn. You know, normal stuff.

Oh, lol. Well laws about driving make sense and aren't political in any way. And as photos of your dick are concerned...I don't know. I'm all for zoning and stuff. That just keeps stuff orderly. I say you should have the right to do it.

EDIT: I mean the dick/billboard thing, not driving on the wrong side of the road.

[eggsprog]

But more seriously, I think that is really a fundamental issue in human society. If I have the right to do whatever I want, then I should be able to walk up to someone and murder them, but obviously this violates their desire/right to not be murdered (I mean, I assume they'd prefer not to be).

Now obviously that is an extreme example, but it is a core issue with a pure libertarian ideology, in my opinion. Purely theoretical, because I've not actually met a libertarian who argues that there should be absolutely no constraints on human behaviour.

[6-eyed]

Life, Liberty, and Property was what it was supposed to be. Thomas Jefferson wanted it that way.

Changing Property to Pursuit of Happiness was a grave mistake in my opinion. Now, we have a bunch of commies who don’t believe in property, and think living on the dole (from the property of others) is a pursuit of happiness.

[tumbling.dice]

But more seriously, I think that is really a fundamental issue in human society. If I have the right to do whatever I want, then I should be able to walk up to someone and murder them, but obviously this violates their desire/right to not be murdered (I mean, I assume they'd prefer not to be).

Now obviously that is an extreme example, but it is a core issue with a pure libertarian ideology, in my opinion. Purely theoretical, because I've not actually met a libertarian who argues that there should be absolutely no constraints on human behaviour.

Sounds more like you're describing anarchy, not Libertarianism. I'm all for laws and taxes and stuff. There should be constraints on human behavior, and governmental behavior as well.

Taxes should pay for specific things, like a gasoline tax paying only what it takes to maintain highways for example. Any left over should be deducted from the next years tax burden.

And I never said that you should have the right to do whatever you want. You should have whatever rights that don't stop others from having those same rights.

[everything bagel]

Remember, it's the pursuit that's protected. It doesn't mean everyone is going to be happy. Lot of miserable people out there

[The Batman]

Remember, it's the pursuit that's protected. It doesn't mean everyone is going to be happy. Lot of miserable people out there

maybe if people would stop murdering parents in alleyways there would be one less miserable person!!!!1!1

Hypothetically speaking, of course. I hear these things happen.

[everything bagel]

maybe if people would stop murdering parents in alleyways there would be one less miserable person!!!!1!1

Hypothetically speaking, of course. I hear these things happen.

Thats weirdly specific. Are you Lego Batman?