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    ...The Pursuit of Happiness

    To my knowledge no other founding document mentions this. Why are we fucking it up so bad? It's so simple, leave people alone and do as you please.

    #2
    Too much people and conflicting perceptions of how to pursue happiness I guess.

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      #3
      Apparently a lot of people's happiness depends on other people's unhappiness.

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        #4
        If you are happy already and your "opposed" candidate wins the election, would that suddenly make you unhappy?

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          #5
          The angle of the dangle...



          The Pursuit of Happiness- Cigarette Dangles 🤪🤒

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            #6
            Originally posted by tumbling.dice View Post
            To my knowledge no other founding document mentions this. Why are we fucking it up so bad? It's so simple, leave people alone and do as you please.
            But what about when your right to do something interferes with someone else's right to be left alone?

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              #7
              Originally posted by eggsprog View Post

              But what about when your right to do something interferes with someone else's right to be left alone?
              Like what?

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                #8
                Originally posted by tumbling.dice View Post

                Like what?
                Anything really - driving on the wrong side of the road, putting up a billboard sized photo of my dick on my front lawn. You know, normal stuff.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by eggsprog View Post

                  Anything really - driving on the wrong side of the road, putting up a billboard sized photo of my dick on my front lawn. You know, normal stuff.
                  Oh, lol. Well laws about driving make sense and aren't political in any way. And as photos of your dick are concerned...I don't know. I'm all for zoning and stuff. That just keeps stuff orderly. I say you should have the right to do it.

                  EDIT: I mean the dick/billboard thing, not driving on the wrong side of the road.

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                    #10
                    But more seriously, I think that is really a fundamental issue in human society. If I have the right to do whatever I want, then I should be able to walk up to someone and murder them, but obviously this violates their desire/right to not be murdered (I mean, I assume they'd prefer not to be).

                    Now obviously that is an extreme example, but it is a core issue with a pure libertarian ideology, in my opinion. Purely theoretical, because I've not actually met a libertarian who argues that there should be absolutely no constraints on human behaviour.

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                      #11
                      Life, Liberty, and Property was what it was supposed to be. Thomas Jefferson wanted it that way.

                      Changing Property to Pursuit of Happiness was a grave mistake in my opinion. Now, we have a bunch of commies who don’t believe in property, and think living on the dole (from the property of others) is a pursuit of happiness.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by eggsprog View Post
                        But more seriously, I think that is really a fundamental issue in human society. If I have the right to do whatever I want, then I should be able to walk up to someone and murder them, but obviously this violates their desire/right to not be murdered (I mean, I assume they'd prefer not to be).

                        Now obviously that is an extreme example, but it is a core issue with a pure libertarian ideology, in my opinion. Purely theoretical, because I've not actually met a libertarian who argues that there should be absolutely no constraints on human behaviour.
                        Sounds more like you're describing anarchy, not Libertarianism. I'm all for laws and taxes and stuff. There should be constraints on human behavior, and governmental behavior as well.

                        Taxes should pay for specific things, like a gasoline tax paying only what it takes to maintain highways for example. Any left over should be deducted from the next years tax burden.

                        And I never said that you should have the right to do whatever you want. You should have whatever rights that don't stop others from having those same rights.

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                          #13
                          Remember, it's the pursuit that's protected. It doesn't mean everyone is going to be happy. Lot of miserable people out there

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by everything bagel View Post
                            Remember, it's the pursuit that's protected. It doesn't mean everyone is going to be happy. Lot of miserable people out there
                            maybe if people would stop murdering parents in alleyways there would be one less miserable person!!!!1!1

                            Hypothetically speaking, of course. I hear these things happen.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Batman View Post

                              maybe if people would stop murdering parents in alleyways there would be one less miserable person!!!!1!1

                              Hypothetically speaking, of course. I hear these things happen.
                              Thats weirdly specific. Are you Lego Batman?

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