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    Is gender a social construct?

    I do not believe gender is social construct, I believe that teaching children in schools that there is no gender will cause a lot of damage in the future for the kids growing up today.

    I know people will disagree with this. I have reasons and will get into this further as people share their opinions, whether they agree or disagree.

    i think this is a good debate to be had.

    #2
    Are you making a distinction between gender and sex here? Or are you using them interchangeably?

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    • Beach Ball Bitch
      Beach Ball Bitch commented
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      Lol. Well gender and your sexual preference go hand in hand. Attractions, who you want to have sex with. How you identify yourself. Sex and gender are the same thing. Call it interchangeable if you want.

    • Karen J
      Karen J commented
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      Not really. Some people are bi, some are not.

    #3
    Beach Ball Bitch well some people make a distinction between the two-sex referring to your genitalia and physical traits, and gender referring to the appearance, social expectations, and behaviors associated with each sex. And then some folks use them as the same word-so depending on how you were using the terms, the question you were asking might have been different.

    So if you are asking-“are genitalia a social construct?” No, obviously not.

    if you’re asking “is the behavior associated with each gender a social construct?” In some ways, yes, in all ways no.

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      #4
      There is only two genders.

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        #5
        X and Y chromosomes are a known biological thing; they were discovered many decades ago. They have impact on our bodies, and also on our thinking. However, they don't entirely determine what our thinking and emotions are going to be. Everybody needs to figure out their own situation. It's complicated. Nobody can tell you what you are, because they don't know.

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        • Beach Ball Bitch
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          My nephew was molested by a man. After this happened, at a very young age this effected him he
          started to be insist on being called a girl. Prior he Was not confused about what he was. 2 out 3 gay
          people I know very well, have been honest to me have said they were made this way, not born this way.

          I believe it is a parents duty to not confuse a child about gender and their roles in it. I believe this strongly. Supporting a child does not mean saying, ok I will call you a she now, because you say this trauma has caused you to have a mental collapse in order to deal with things that happened to the child.. This will be ignored and you are now a she. Trauma is more often than not Is behind it. But let’s give you drugs to make you be what you think you want to become. Doing this is child abuse.

          The entire gender is a social construct was developed by a dr. Money. Who was a child molester and a sick man who abused children, His research was perverse and a lie. This is what is being taught today. His research as evidence.
          Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 11-05-2020, 06:01 PM.

        • 6-eyed
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          Personality traits are not genders

        #6
        I don't believe gender is a social construct, however, I believe there are social constructs based off gender.

        Masculinity and Femininity are real and we're altering something dictated by nature if we pump a kid full of hormones or mutilate their bodies to suppress that, as opposed to social constructs like letting a boy play with a doll.

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          #7
          Originally posted by Beach Ball Bitch View Post
          There is only two genders.

          No doctor agrees. There are a variety of chromosome combinations that you can be born with; XX, XY, XXY, XYY, and XY where the Y is a partial X.

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          • 6-eyed
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            Plenty of doctors agree there are only 2 genders.

            Those chromosomal combinations are not different genders. xxy & xyy are still male in gender, and xxx & x are still female in gender. Yet those chromosomal abnormalities are SO infrequent and rare they are basically mutations.

          • Dr. Doom
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            I always thought it was the extra y chromosome that made the gender difference.
            Perhaps I'm confused, I just woke up.

          #8
          Originally posted by Beach Ball Bitch View Post
          There is only two genders.
          We have to consider Transgender, and all those Intersex points in between. I know a couple of Transgender women who started out in male bodies. They are quite open about it on FB and twitter. And political about ppl no longer using their "dead name" or wrong pronouns such as "he, him." I support that.

          As for Gender being a "Social Construct" it needs further explanation because GENder can be vague whereas GENitals are quite plainly fysical.

          There are Transgender Female to Male, where all outward appearance is male, but they still have a vagina (with an enlarged clit resembling a small penis) such as Buck Angel and Stevie Trixx. Same for Male to Female who will have breasts & female features but still retain their functional cock & balls.

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            #9
            Originally posted by Beach Ball Bitch View Post
            There is only two genders.
            This is an oversimplification and not medically or scientifically supported. if you are actually interested in adapting your current beliefs to new (peer reviewed, scientifically valid) information, then check out this article.

            https://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

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            • Shale
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              Fascinating. Looks like we have not evolved so drastically from our reptilian ancestry where gender could be altered by the temperature of the nest where the eggs were.
              (BTW are you the same Youfreeme that was my friend on Hip?)

            #10
            Youfreeme
            i do agree there are anomalies. They find those same traits in rapists and child molesters. This is not to say that all people who consider themselves trans Or gay will go on to be this. Can events cause this shift? I say yes it can, definitely.

            but the entire social construct thing is not something to be promoted in my opinion. This will confuse majority of the children. At their own detriment in the end. If one is questioning it, there needs to be some inquiries as to if things happened to them. Not be told by a trauma therapist that maybe they are a girl. Which is happening in today’s society. it is normal for the child to think this after a trauma they say. So just let it happen. If they ask for make up. Give it to the child. If they ask for dresses, let them wear dresses. They tell the parents. Hormone therapy for children.

            lets look at dr. Money. Who brought about this entire social construct and his practices.



            David Reimer and John Money Gender Reassignment Controversy: The John/Joan Case In the mid-1960s, psychologist John Money encouraged the gender reassignment of David Reimer, who was born a biological male but suffered irreparable damage to his penis as an infant. Born in
            Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 11-05-2020, 06:40 PM.

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            • Youfreeme
              Youfreeme commented
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              What this man did was illegal and unethical. I don’t think many people would argue that what he did was right. I don’t think giving hormones to children is a good idea, especially children who express no desire to be the opposite sex. And even if a child does express unhappiness with their body, it seems reckless to give them surgery or hormones. I think almost anyone would agree on this.

            • Karen J
              Karen J commented
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              I think the minimum age for any kind of medical intervention should be either 18 or 21.

            #11
            Youfreeme

            well this is the entire basis for gender is a social construct today. Doctors who are sick fucks in my opinion are not addressing the route of this confusion. Oh the child must be gay, or trans, and let him be called a she if he wants. Do not disagree with one who calls themselves a she. This is being promoted at a young age. Explore. It is a social construct. Dr. Money did it wrong, let’s give it another try. Everyone has potential to become this if we just teach it.

            why is there such a high rate of suicides in the trans community? David Reimer killed himself too. Were things never addressed at a young age? They have found that there are 4 traits, things in common shares with trans gender. They are social aspects of upbringing. Also in the gay community.

            it is not The fault of society. It is the fault of the medical community today. This social construct business is not going to save lives. It will destroy many, and is, like my nephew. My niece says she wants pronouns when referring to her. She has no idea what this means, but this is what is taught. You don’t have a gender. Explore it. Ignore inherent Instincts.. don’t copy your parents. They are not role models. Sure som3 are no good for that. Having a mother anD father is not the way to go in life. Nuclear family is bad. Who says so?

            and today this is being taught in schools. That this is normal and sweeping a major problem under the rug.

            it didnt turn out so well, but let’s give this another try. Let’s tell everyone there is no male and female. No gender roles, Women and men don’t exist, their roles don't exist. We are just as strong as a man. We can compete with a man on everything. You can be whatever you want. you are capable of being a man, even though you have a vag, or the reverse.

            when I heard this guy talk the other day. I have been watching his streams. Before he came out and told his story. I got it right off the bat. Understood it. Not because I experienced it personally, but because of friends and family members that have been open and honest about things.

            In the lgbtq community these things are not to be heard of today. If you speak of it openly you are out of the club. They were all born this way is the message of today, which is not true. There is a natural common attraction. That is heterosexual. Today this is not to be celebrated.

            the guy below, I watched him try to connect with people in his riot videos. He tried to connect with others within the trans community. I found him compassionate and kind, yet they rejected him for speaking to them. He looked for those that would understand him. Only found rejection on the left. Found rejection for himself. He switched political sides and has found acceptance and understanding. More than he experienced in hi# life. Also acceptance and understanding himself. Something that doctors today won’t explore. It is not the narrative wanted, I get it. Compassion exists and understanding exists. Not so sure it can be talked about by those extremists who are a part of SJW and the BLM movement. Group think.

            it is why there is a walk away movement too.
            Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 11-05-2020, 07:39 PM.

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                #13
                Originally posted by Beach Ball Bitch View Post
                Youfreeme

                well this is the entire basis for gender is a social construct today. Doctors who are sick fucks in my opinion are not addressing the route of this confusion. Oh the child must be gay, or trans, and let him be called a she if he wants.
                How are you reaching that conclusion? Transgendered people have been around long before the 1960's. Where are you getting the information about this one doctor starting the entire theory of gender as a social construct?

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                • Beach Ball Bitch
                  Beach Ball Bitch commented
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                  So has abuse been around before the 60s. Dr. Money did not address this, he promoted it.

                  Today it is not addressed at all. Just oh you were born like this.

                #14
                Why is this posted under political debate?

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                  #15
                  Beach Ball Bitch
                  Lol. Well gender and your sexual preference go hand in hand. Attractions, who you want to have sex with. How you identify yourself. Sex and gender are the same thing. Call it interchangeable if you want
                  How do gender and sexual preference go hand in hand? Does that mean you think that any men who prefer to have sex with men are actually just confused?

                  Saying that gender is a social construct doesn't ignore physical, biological differences between men and women.

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                  • Youfreeme
                    Youfreeme commented
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                    I think she might have misunderstood my question. I wonder if she assumed by sex I meant sexual intercourse?

                  • Beach Ball Bitch
                    Beach Ball Bitch commented
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                    They go hand in hand because I am right wing and sexual preference is now the new racist term, according to the left regarding ACBs statements previously made. The left has now called this racist.
                    ACB is racist because of it, They Will call me this too. The reason for this is that people who use sexual preference are not recognizing the gender spectrum. And they are right, I don’t recognize it, there is only male and female. There is no gender spectrum.

                    But seriously it was a mistake in response. Sex and gender are the same, There are only two genders. Male and female. Then there are Events that bring about some other things. It is not the new normal either, Gender is not a spectrum. This does not change the fact that the person is male or female, no matter how much the person wish it.
                    Last edited by Beach Ball Bitch; 11-07-2020, 08:48 PM.
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