Hate her or love her - she was the one and only Janis!

[PacificDude]

I get so sick of people picking on Janis Joplin. They did it in Texas (her home town), and they continued to do it in the music industry after she became a big success.

Fact is, she was the first major rock star that was a woman. She opened the door to other women rock stars that followed in her foot steps. She gave them permission. She gave them courage.

Also, she was a major blues singer. And she did all of this from 1967-1970. Unkind people say she was ugly (or masculine). I don't agree. She was a woman in the rock music industry dominated by men! And so people mocked her (especially the music critics).

Bottom line is we are still listening and talking about her 50 years after she died at 27. That says it all. And I think she was sexy as fuck - and this is coming from a Buddhist!

[neonspectraltoast]

She's not my thing...I really don't like the Blues.

Never experienced anyone do anything but fawn over her.

[Din Djarin]

People are still picking on her?

If not, doesn't focussing on that aspect get kinda old?
i think so many years later it makes the most sense to be neutral about her. Back in the day too probably, but because it was an issue back then I would def be in the 'love her' camp. It's not an issue anymore, so better to just appreciate the music

[neonspectraltoast]

[PacificDude]

She's not my thing...I really don't like the Blues.

Never experienced anyone do anything but fawn over her.

Fawn is not the right word ;-)

[neonspectraltoast]

Sing her praises?

[YouGonnaDrinkThatFrap?]

I think that she is pretty and I like her music.
To each their own.

[Audiogen]

I think Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow came out before the first Janis Joplin record, so Grace Slick should get some recognition as well for being an influential woman lead in Rock. But as where Slick shared vocals, Joplin was the focal point of Big Brother and the Holding Company.

She seemed like a complex person, none of what you said is inaccurate but I don't think she particularly helped herself out either. She had a pretty significant amphetamine and booze habit from my understanding and was promiscuous to the detriment of relationships with people around her who cared about her. I don't think she was really a hippie at heart, more of a de facto hippie based on being in the music scene at the time.

[Din Djarin]

I think that she is pretty and I like her music.
To each their own.

Same, but I also get why others see certain praising as fawning over her.

[PacificDude]

I think Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow came out before the first Janis Joplin record, so Grace Slick should get some recognition as well for being an influential woman lead in Rock. But as where Slick shared vocals, Joplin was the focal point of Big Brother and the Holding Company.

She seemed like a complex person, none of what you said is inaccurate but I don't think she particularly helped herself out either. She had a pretty significant amphetamine and booze habit from my understanding and was promiscuous to the detriment of relationships with guys around her who cared about her. I don't think she was really a hippie at heart, more of a de facto hippie based on being in the music scene at the time.

Audiogen Janis was more of a beatnick. Her favorite book was On the Road. Columbia records manufactured her as the quintessential hippie chick. It sold out more concerts and records ;-)

[PacificDude]

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[Din Djarin]

Sometimes it seems like you are living a bit in the past, PacificDude. Or perhaps not living in it, but glorifying it. While for every (righteously ) romanticized aspect in that era we can also come up with a serious disadvantage

[PacificDude]

Sometimes it seems like you are living a bit in the past, PacificDude. Or perhaps not living in it, but glorifying it. While for every (righteously ) romanticized aspect in that era we can also come up with a serious disadvantage

I agree 100%. But the same also applies to modern times ;-)

[Din Djarin]

I agree 100%. But the same also applies to modern times ;-)

Sure.

The fact alone we live in a digital age with social media and where kids have smartphones etc. before age 10 is reason enough for me to not want kids for instance. I would def prefer to raise kids in the 70s, 80s or 90s.

I also think a decade like the 70s for example was more blissful because the majority of people wer living in ignorance of their combined impact on the world. Hence the cars and certain food products seem so fun and awesome in how they complimented the daily atmosphere.
It must have been hell to be enviromentally woke in like the 80s!!

[mallyboppa]

Seems Quite a few Brilliant Female singers had a Love / Hate relationship with the public ! Eg Amy Winehouse , Rhianna
My personal favorite is Sinead O'Connor